| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63737 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 03:19   |
WarClub
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Ayla gets revenge on Belphagor. Fatso isn't capable of recognizing that he should be afraid of Jobe (Major psychological blind spot, as he cannot conceive of anyone being greater than him mentally.) Ayla, on the other hand, can attack him where he is almost invariably scared - physically. It wouldn't even have to really become physical - constant implied threats would likely do the job, along with frying Belphagors stuff and policing his actions.
Vamp, on the other hand, isn't afraid of Ayla, despite indications that she should be. I would be very surprised if Jobe wasn't capable of terrifying her. If she tries to tough it out - bad choice against someone with Jobe's arsenal.
Both out protagonists (Using the term loosely in Jobe's case) are smart enough to figure out that the best move is to switch off on their respective pests.
I wonder if the contract negotiators were smart enough to add a clause on what happens in the event of sabotage. If not, I suspect that both Jobe and Ayla will try to be civilized, and possibly seek a mediator - Ms Carson comes to mind, though she would not be happy with either of them in that situation.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63738 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 03:36 |
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 Nocte
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I reckon that what Belfatso did will have no effect on Ayla. Did no-one see the kind of security that Jobe set up so that he can't accidentally inject himself again? I'm not talking about the door, I'm talking about the serum machine that requires a hand-print and a (presumably) long numerical code to even access the serums. Presumably, the long code is how the machine recognizes which one to pick up, so even if Belfatso manages to get into Jobe's lab and fool the machine into thinking that he is Jobe, he'd need to KNOW the code-number for the Maleness Serum. I doubt someone as "prepared" as Jobe would allow a machine he uses to have a "recently accessed" screen beyond a time-stamp saying that the machine was accessed at XX:XX time on XX:XX date. Also, considering that Belpheobe has trouble properly locking the lab, Jobe would probably check to make sure that the serums have not been accessed since he (or Belpheobe) were last in the lab.
Then again, this might delay Ayla getting injected and Jobe probably thinks that Ayla might raise legal hell if the treatment is delayed (which he wouldn't if Jobe explained that there was a security breach and that Jobe is making sure that the integrity of the serums is as it should be)
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63741 is a reply to message #63737 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 04:31 |
Thrythlind
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| WarClub wrote on Mon, 20 August 2012 16:19 |
Both out protagonists (Using the term loosely in Jobe's case)
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I was about to say that there was no need to use the term lightly until I realized you were accurate, though probably not for the implied reason.
The protagonist is the central character, the character whose actions drive the plot.
Ayla is the protagonist here.
Jobe serves more as a foil.
There is a tendency to view the protagonist as the "good guy" since the protagonists commonly are the good guys, but there are at least two very famous works where in the protagonist is either of questionable morality or else downright evil.
For example, Dracula is the protagonist of his novel, we see the situation through the eyes of the antagonists in that story. The antagonists happen to be the good guys.
Likewise, Frankenstein is the protagonist of his story, with the creature as antagonist...however, it is hard to label either individual as evil in that case. They both do evil things, but neither at their core really even compares to someone like Dracula.
The protagonists of some of King's works are the monster as well, Cujo, for example, is often written from the dog's PoV.
Anyway, sorry about that, you triggered a literary term rant.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63746 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 05:50 |
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Grey Shadow
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Belphegor does have his kraken formula. How that would react with Jobe's drow formula might be interesting.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63756 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 12:55 |
Freya
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I just had a wild thought that is probably far off but here goes.
What if Phase got the "Male Drow" serum Jobe has been working on?
Gizmatic did mention that he plans to marry Jobe off if she stays female so what if he then starts trying to arrange a marriage between Phase and Jobe?
 
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63768 is a reply to message #63758 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 16:57 |
oljak.eru
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There are a few videogames like that as well. It's a bit of a spoiler to mention it, but...Braid is a great example of a game where you play the bad guy, and don't even know it until the end. Great game by the way, it's definitely worth the $7 I paid for it plus about ten other indie games in whichever Humble Indie Bundle I got it from.
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“I am SO level-headed! And anyone who says different is going to have to answer to... The CABBIT OF DOOM!” -Jade
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63774 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 21:07 |
Riniko22
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We have already seen that Belphegor is very talented at breaking into labs, and he has taken things from Jobe on more than one occasion. While Jobe may have increased security in his lab, we know that the focus of his genius is bio or electronic, so their is reason to believe that he could have succeeded in his plan to stop Jobe from changing back. His formula may even be designed to permanently block changes in the subject, but with Belfatso we have also noted a tendency in his work to be less than what he may have intended or to have unintended side effects.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63778 is a reply to message #63698 ] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 23:45 |
Cryptic
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| dpragan wrote on Sun, 19 August 2012 13:47 |
6) Serum is compromised and Ayla now looks like Jobe Pre-Drow, he is adopted by Gizmatic and made his Heir and is betrothed to Jobette.
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-shivers- Ok, that is a scary thought/image.
Ayla: JOBE!!! WTFH?
Jobe: You never specified i couldn't use an enhanced version of my DNA.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63787 is a reply to message #63777 ] |
Tue, 21 August 2012 06:36 |
Niknokitueu
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| chrisbuyer wrote on Tue, 21 August 2012 04:00 | Belphagor should be turned into a toad. He just has no comprehension that what he is doing is wrong. Or at least it seems that way to me from the glimpse into his thoughts as he goes about doing what he's doing.
Chris in CA
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Whilst I agree that Belfatso has little or no redeeming character traits, you have to admit that his powerset is amazing.
He takes Devises from other inventors, some of which are buggy, or only normally work for their inventor, or that may not have any actual real applications, and cludges them together with other Devises and Devices, and gets them to work for him.
By my reckoning, he could probably get Tiny Tim to work for more than a few paces...
Now, if someone could give him a personality transplant he could be worth a fortune. Several fortunes...
But I agree that, as he is written, he really needs to be taken outside and beaten senseless a few times. Hmm... Electroshock collar with anti-tampering measures maybe... 
Have Fun!
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #63791 is a reply to message #63777 ] |
Tue, 21 August 2012 09:09 |
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Nocte
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| chrisbuyer wrote on Tue, 21 August 2012 13:00 |
Belphagor should be turned into a toad.
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"We do not use Transfiguration as a punishment, Professor Moody!"
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
As for Jobe's electronic security, I'd think that Jobe, though being the 11th best bio-devisor IN THE WORLD, would know to ask someone who does know how to secure their lab from thieving hands. After Belfatso stole the Drow Serum and created Belpheobe, he might have beefed up the security around his test serums.
Then again, my rants about Jobe's security measures can be nullified by having it be revealed that Belfatso managed to kludge together what is basically a Universal Electronic Security Bypass devise from the labs that are not as secure.
You know, I'm starting to think that Belfatso's specialty is to generate magic blue smoke that makes devises work for him and allows him to combine wildly different devises.
"On the other hand, maybe all this could have been avoided if you just managed to get laid once in a while. You can't even tell me you'd be this tightly wound if you were receiving Treasure Type O regularly" Roy Greenhilt
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