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Re: New story [message #26207 is a reply to message #26203 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anvildude  is currently offline Anvildude
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Not to mention that I don't think that Carson has Golden eyes.


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Re: New story [message #26210 is a reply to message #26207 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anvildude wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 00:50

Not to mention that I don't think that Carson has Golden eyes.
That's an easy issue for the contacts makers, though...


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Re: New story [message #26213 is a reply to message #26151 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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M. Reynard wrote on Tue, 10 February 2009 11:21

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Xioc au lait


Someone read Allston's Doc Sidhe, hmm? Wink


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Re: New story [message #26215 is a reply to message #26176 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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charm wrote on Tue, 10 February 2009 13:20

I just realize that Jobe must be planning some particularly nasty payback for Belphegor.
I mean, Belph

  • Stole Jobe's cloning chamber and Drow cells.
  • Stole Jobe's Drow girlfriend idea.
  • Tried to pollute the girlfriend idea with Phobe's mind.
  • Managed to pollute the girlfriend idea with Belphegor's mind.
  • Got Jobe designated at Phebe's mother.
  • Stuck Jobe with the job (excuse pun) of looking after Phebe (Belph appears to be a somewhat absentee father. OK, Jobe's also a somewhat absentee Mother, but Jobe doesn't look at things that way. Phebe IS sharing a room with Jobe.)
  • Stuck Jobe with the COSTS of looking after Phebe (probably not a big deal to Jobe, but it's the principle of the thing.)

Any speculation about what's going to happen to Belphegor?
Heh, just mistyped "Belphegor?" as Belphegirl. A Freudian slip perhaps?


Now, keep in mind that Jobe is all about balance. Consider what Belphegor is currently going through with _Carson_. I mean, think about it.

1) Created a life form with human intelligence without proper supervision.
2) Performed a form of brain washing on a sentient being (albeit a bit blank slate).
3) Has created an additional burden on the school in the form of educating Belphoebe.

That's on top of:
1) Theft of several other students' property
2) Misuse of school property
3) Damaging/altering said other students' property.

Carson would have been completely in her rights under the school charter, as I understand it, to expel Belphegor and turn him over to the British MCO (I expect that, much like they are resisting the Euro and other 'join the EU' stuff, their MCO is separate). Even as a juvenile, he'd be looking at a _lot_ of hard time, and possibly hard labor.

He's getting off excruciatingly lucky, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that he's going to end up with a permanently implanted tracking device, marked as "you disable or remove, you're gone".

Note that Jobe _does_ feel personal responsibilities for his creations. Phoebe (Feeb? to go with Foob?) is the direct result of his genetic creation, as well as cloning chamber. Therefore, he has a vested interest in her anyway. Carson labeling him? her? Belphoebe's mother simply puts an official stamp on it, giving him defined responsibilities and privileges. Belphegor, I suspect, has more responsibilities than privileges in this matter. (Much like Texas law. The father basically has zero rights under state law)

Now, I'd also expect that without the psyche damage from Belphegor's historical experiences, Belphoebe will NOT end up quite the thieving bastard that Belfatso is. She has the experiences, but none of the physical brain changes that went along with those experiences - so they're like dreams more than memories. I'd expect her to be a bit sticky fingered, yes, but a larger tendency towards doing her own work.

This could be a fun thing. Belphegor's biggest strength seems to be in adapting other designs to new uses, or refining them, much like the Japanese. A devisor capable of doing that could be VERY popular in the Workshop. "Okay, you want to balance out the heterodyne in your third level field? If you talk to Mega-Death, one of his field disruptors could probably be modified to balance the waveform, rather than break it completely."
Re: New story [message #26216 is a reply to message #25722 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hm..

Maybe Belphoebe should be seeing Fubar. That would be a good way to help her integrate the engrammatic memories into a unique, coherent self-image.

Oh - did anyone notice how much attention to her image Belphoebe was doing during shopping? (Especially cleavage). I wonder if that's part of the Sidhe genetic legacy? I mean, you normally wouldn't expect a 'male turned female' to be wanting to do THAT kind of shopping within a few days of 'waking up' (especially with the immediate wakeup nightmare). My guess is that there are certain RNA indicators that are kicking in for "Have to look good!" despite the "But this isn't me!"

BW
Re: New story [message #26221 is a reply to message #25722 ] Tue, 10 February 2009 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just like tossing out interesting possibilities I don't subscribe to it Smile



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Re: New story [message #26248 is a reply to message #26216 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bookworm wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 05:49

Hm..

Maybe Belphoebe should be seeing Fubar. That would be a good way to help her integrate the engrammatic memories into a unique, coherent self-image.

Oh - did anyone notice how much attention to her image Belphoebe was doing during shopping? (Especially cleavage). I wonder if that's part of the Sidhe genetic legacy? I mean, you normally wouldn't expect a 'male turned female' to be wanting to do THAT kind of shopping within a few days of 'waking up' (especially with the immediate wakeup nightmare). My guess is that there are certain RNA indicators that are kicking in for "Have to look good!" despite the "But this isn't me!"

BW

Hey that would explain Jobe's reactions after complete Drowification! Nice one! Very Happy


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Re: New story [message #26250 is a reply to message #25722 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope Carson has thought of a backup plan should Jobe pull a Hikaru Genji Plan.


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Re: New story [message #26263 is a reply to message #26250 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nocte:
I don't think that trope applies since Jobe is genetically related to Phebe, after all they both share the Drow formula genes, genetically they're essentially sisters.


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Re: New story [message #26302 is a reply to message #26248 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually I was getting flashbacks to the infamous "swish, swish" scene in the web comic "Sparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki"

Hey what are these?

Wow that felt good!

Lets do that again!

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Re: New story [message #26307 is a reply to message #25722 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think once Jadis clues in her brother about the flashy thingy that a lot of nasty Belphegor traps dressed up as something tasty will start to appear in the workshop.

My personal Jobe favorite might be something between the ultra violet's pet Colton and Jabba the Hutt. A less evil object lesson would be make him allergic to all food but certain legumes of the highly gaseous variety. Belphart, anyone.
Re: New story [message #26309 is a reply to message #26263 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James K wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 21:10

Nocte:
I don't think that trope applies since Jobe is genetically related to Phebe, after all they both share the Drow formula genes, genetically they're essentially sisters.

I thought genetically they're identical twins. (Or clones)


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Re: New story [message #26313 is a reply to message #26309 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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charm wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 11:02

James K wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 21:10

Nocte:
I don't think that trope applies since Jobe is genetically related to Phebe, after all they both share the Drow formula genes, genetically they're essentially sisters.

I thought genetically they're identical twins. (Or clones)



We don't know how much of the DNA Jobe was planning on replacing. It could be quite a bit less than 100%. Belphoebe could well be a Belphegor clone + the Drow genes. Or someone else's clone plus the Drow genes.

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Re: New story [message #26318 is a reply to message #25722 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is my real theory, I think Jobe and Sara came to a mutually beneficial agreement and he was not tricked, just told the facts and was forced to admit the validity of them (in private) and has the bad deal with Sara as a cover story probably with Sara backing him up so that she can get more razerspinners on a regular basis.

Possibly bodies for Chaddy and Gary and maybe a back up bodies in-case she accidentally eats Jericho or Jade so that she does not absorb their fashion sense

Jobe already has different eye colors and likely will have shorter hair.



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Re: New story [message #26323 is a reply to message #26313 ] Wed, 11 February 2009 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Thu, 12 February 2009 07:22

charm wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 11:02

James K wrote on Wed, 11 February 2009 21:10

Nocte:
I don't think that trope applies since Jobe is genetically related to Phebe, after all they both share the Drow formula genes, genetically they're essentially sisters.

I thought genetically they're identical twins. (Or clones)



We don't know how much of the DNA Jobe was planning on replacing. It could be quite a bit less than 100%. Belphoebe could well be a Belphegor clone + the Drow genes. Or someone else's clone plus the Drow genes.

Xaltatun


From Jade 8
Quote:


And occasionally that worked. In about 10% of the cases. Another 30% seemed to be cured, initially, but the recipient slowly began to 'heal' into a clone of the donor. That's pretty common. In two thirds of those cases, the cloning goes off okay. The other third, the cloning goes okay, but the brain gets wiped in the process. You end up with a regenerating clone that has the mind of a newborn babe."

"That leaves 60%. What happens to them?"


The stats match up with those given in Jobe 1. So, High probability that process is same. Not to mention Sara ate Jobe's male cells, and no mention was made of the Drow cells adopting genetic material from the host. (Not sure why you'd even want to, no way to control what would result.)
So, I guess it's possible that Belphy modified the Drow cells he stole from Jobe (why? Also, Phebe (with Belpfatso's memories) tells Jobe that Jobe created a masterpiece.)

I think it very probable that Jobe and Phebe are identical twins.

Actually as Belphegor wanted Feebs to be his GF, it seems most unlikely that he would have used his own genes as the base for the clone.


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