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fictionmania [message #16330] Sun, 09 November 2008 15:09 Go to next message
brudin is currently offline  brudin
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it's me or fictiomania is down ?
Re: fictionmania [message #16332 is a reply to message #16330] Sun, 09 November 2008 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tweeve is currently offline  tweeve
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I haven't been able to get on for several days now.
Re: fictionmania [message #16333 is a reply to message #16332] Sun, 09 November 2008 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bookworm is currently offline  Bookworm
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There was a post on bigclosetr.us about it. Apparently there was a server failure, specifically, a front end failure.

That's about the only 'facts' that are stated.

The general feeling I got was that the site was originally written to run on a Mac web hosting system, and has never been converted to anything else (time/money is always an issue). I know I offered to host it a while back, but they never even responded to say 'no thank you'.

There's no real ETA on it coming back online, but hopefully they at least put a front page up saying "Site down, can't afford a full time program to fix, may take a while" or something.

Re: fictionmania [message #16338 is a reply to message #16333] Sun, 09 November 2008 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee is currently online  Sir Lee
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I understand that a new server has been in the pipeline for a while now (due mainly for performance reasons), but the main issue delaying the replacement/upgrade has been lack of time by the one person (Mindy Rich) who really understands the system.

By the way, ElrodW has just posted an announcement on the TG-Fiction list that due for personal/financial reasons, he's not going to renew the hosting contract for his website -- the one that hosts most canon Bikini Beach and MAU stories, and also has extra info, like park maps and such. He will make the material available if somebody is willing to host it.


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Re: fictionmania [message #16339 is a reply to message #16338] Sun, 09 November 2008 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bookworm is currently offline  Bookworm
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Well, I have to get another server anyway, for my normal business, so I doubt I'd have any issues hosting his stuff.

BW
Re: fictionmania [message #16340 is a reply to message #16339] Sun, 09 November 2008 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee is currently online  Sir Lee
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It's a nice offer. You would have to contact him through the TG-Fiction list , though, because his "public" e-mail is no longer operational.

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Re: fictionmania [message #16341 is a reply to message #16340] Sun, 09 November 2008 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bookworm is currently offline  Bookworm
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Posted up on the list. We'll see what happens now.
Re: fictionmania [message #16366 is a reply to message #16338] Mon, 10 November 2008 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
XaltatunOfAcheron is currently offline  XaltatunOfAcheron
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Sir Lee wrote on Sun, 09 November 2008 17:07

I understand that a new server has been in the pipeline for a while now (due mainly for performance reasons), but the main issue delaying the replacement/upgrade has been lack of time by the one person (Mindy Rich) who really understands the system.




It's down. There's a topic on Big Closet discussing it. As I understand it, the facts are that there are two servers involved. One is the very old server that hosts the front page, index, random images, forums and all that stuff, the second is the new server (it's only about two or three months old) that hosts the actual stories.

It's the first one that's apparently dead in the water. That's the "old Mac" that has all very old custom software on it. Moving it to a new server without a complete rewrite might not be an option.

Anyway, check the FM Down topic in the Blogs section on Big Closet for news.

http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/

http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/blog/9864/fm-down

Xaltatun


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Re: fictionmania [message #16384 is a reply to message #16330] Mon, 10 November 2008 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sapphire has also offered to host Elrod's stuff as a featured author on her site which she is currently redesigning from scratch with all new software, instead of her own old stuff with all the hassles. She said in the post that she was getting more comfortable with it as she uses it, so we may see action there soon also.
Re: fictionmania [message #16394 is a reply to message #16384] Mon, 10 November 2008 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently online  Warren
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I would gloat but both Bob and I offered to help her do the redesign. I even went so far as to build her sample pages (which eventually turned into the Crystal Hall) and her feedback pretty much asked me to remove everything I had redesigned to make the site easier to manage.

Course if she's finally shifting over to a package like Wordpress it may be easier for her.


Sometimes writing with geeks is like eating Jello with a chainsaw. Interesting but painful.
Re: fictionmania [message #16400 is a reply to message #16394] Mon, 10 November 2008 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stacy is currently offline  stacy
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She didn't say what she was using, but indicated it was all modern stuff wihtout her own ancient do it this way directive stuff in it. Of course, thats all that was around when she started, but it is time to get into the 20th century, or so I keep getting told. The 21st scares me to death.
Re: fictionmania [message #16410 is a reply to message #16400] Mon, 10 November 2008 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
XaltatunOfAcheron is currently offline  XaltatunOfAcheron
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stacy wrote on Mon, 10 November 2008 19:59

She didn't say what she was using, but indicated it was all modern stuff wihtout her own ancient do it this way directive stuff in it. Of course, thats all that was around when she started, but it is time to get into the 20th century, or so I keep getting told. The 21st scares me to death.


Yeah, that's what she said a few months ago. I'm not too surprised that it's taking a bit of time. Someone who knows what they're doing could put the necessary app together in Rails or Django in a day or so, but it would take some time to learn how from a standing start. And then converting everything over would also take a while. (And no, I am not in the "a day or so" camp.) It's worth while to take the time to get a comfort level.

Xaltatun


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Re: fictionmania [message #16412 is a reply to message #16330] Mon, 10 November 2008 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently online  Warren
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It took me a month working pretty much every free moment I had to convert the Whateley stories over and build the site. But bear in mind that it was over 100 pages at that time alone. Now it would take even longer.

Sometimes writing with geeks is like eating Jello with a chainsaw. Interesting but painful.
Re: fictionmania [message #17784 is a reply to message #16330] Wed, 03 December 2008 18:29 Go to previous message
Eternal_Octopus is currently offline  Eternal_Octopus
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Well, fictionmania is still down as of 3:30 pm 12/03/08 wednesday.
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