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| Re: Chou Lee [message #37980 is a reply to message #37976 ] |
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About black-and-white POV - on Girl Genius site there is a side story about Heterodyne Boys winding up in another dimension. The Lord Protector of that place rapidly returned them back, and noted that they see world as BW, and will not tolerate B, while his own world is constituted of countless shades of gray without bure BW. Thus, had they stayed, in their quest to be W they would have utterly wrecked hte place, because no pure W was present.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #38032 is a reply to message #38012 ] |
Thu, 30 April 2009 17:12 |
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| Valar_Morghulis wrote on Thu, 30 April 2009 15:45 |
| Gabe wrote on Thu, 30 April 2009 09:23 |
On another note, I was just wondering, which dialect of chinese does Chou speak in? I'm thinkin' Mandarin...
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All the actual Chinese written so far has been Mandarin, so yes, you would be correct.
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Mandarin is all I know. While I know it is not historically accurate to have Chou and Destiny's Wave speaking Mandarin, it is what I can do.If I tried any other dialect then I would be using translators and not any personal knowledge of the language.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #38039 is a reply to message #37981 ] |
Thu, 30 April 2009 18:24 |
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| MitchellTF wrote on Thu, 30 April 2009 10:18 |
Link please?
(Interestingly enough, I have a rather, if not 'black and white', at the least DEFINED way of seeing 'good and evil'. The guiding principle behind 'good' is complete selflessness, sacrificing yourself for the benefits of others. The guiding principle behind 'evil' is complete selfishness, sacrificing of others to benefit yourself. It's not perfect, but it solves a good few problems.)
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No human by that definition would ever be able to be classified as 'good'. All selflessness is by definition a form of selfishneess. 'Ill help you feed your starving famiiy and I will feel good about myself'. You would need to find an utterly RARE person to come close to 'good'. We are talking true saints etc.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #38102 is a reply to message #38092 ] |
Fri, 01 May 2009 01:13 |
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| James K wrote on Fri, 01 May 2009 00:39 |
MitchellTF: That's an interesting ethical perspective, but not one I ascribe to. It may be my economics training, but I simply can't see selfishness as a vice, nor selflessness as especially virtuous. The massive gains in standard of living int he past few centuries are all the product of selfish behaviour, and I'm firmly of the opinion that miguided good intentions have done more damage to humanity than deliberate evil.
For me its all about the outcomes of an action (or the reasonably forseable outcomes if we're assigning moral merti to the actor) that determines good, though I realise this is one perspective among many.
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Ah, the ends justify the means.
Kill one man and you're a murderer. Kill 1000 and your country gives you a medal.
Personally I believe that both good and evil are subjective. Each is predicated on the existence AND recognition of the other. Each is determined on an individual basis by every single person. Evil men do not view themselves as such. Winners write history according to their own definitions.
Some actions are viewed by the vast majority of people as evil... some are viewed by similar margins as good. However, there will be some who view each situation as the opposite.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #38108 is a reply to message #38092 ] |
Fri, 01 May 2009 03:59 |
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| James K wrote on Fri, 01 May 2009 00:39 |
MitchellTF: That's an interesting ethical perspective, but not one I ascribe to. It may be my economics training,
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Oh snap 
| James K wrote on Fri, 01 May 2009 00:39 |
but I simply can't see selfishness as a vice, nor selflessness as especially virtuous. The massive gains in standard of living int he past few centuries are all the product of selfish behaviour,
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Just remember not to take selfishness too far  abuse of monopoly power being the classic example.
| James K wrote on Fri, 01 May 2009 00:39 |
and I'm firmly of the opinion that miguided good intentions have done more damage to humanity than deliberate evil.
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Clarify please: Nearly every frothing dictator believes they're doing good. Do you use the person's own beliefs or a "common sense" test?
| James K wrote on Fri, 01 May 2009 00:39 |
For me its all about the outcomes of an action (or the reasonably forseable outcomes if we're assigning moral merti to the actor) that determines good,
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I don't know, that for example really contradicts the principle of Autonomy in Medical Ethics. When curing someone who dosn't want to be cured the reasonably foreseeable outcome is that they'll live a long and healthy life after the operation. Dose that give the doctor the right to ignore his patients wishes.
To me, I've sort of given up on finding a working definition and sort of do it by feel on a case by case basis.
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