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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47811 is a reply to message #47804 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 15:46   |
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Diane Castle Messages: 2505 Registered: September 2007 Location: Oregon, USA |
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| Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47815 is a reply to message #47811 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 16:53   |
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Nicky82 Messages: 1404 Registered: May 2011 |
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| Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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I would think that if anyone managed to hit a bullet with a sword in RL, there would be a broken sword.... and for making clean cuts, I would think that the bullet spin would make it pretty much impossible.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47816 is a reply to message #47811 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 17:09   |
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beyogi Messages: 942 Registered: May 2011 Location: Germany |
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| Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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Still I wouldn't even be able to see the rubber ball bullet. Of course he could do nothing against a machine ball. Even if he'd hit a musket shot, he or his mates would still be hit by the shrapnell.
Doesn't change the fact it is an awesome feat. I can't understand the japanese obsession with their samurai though.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47817 is a reply to message #47815 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 17:12   |
Laudator Messages: 941 Registered: February 2009 |
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| Nicky82 wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:53 | | Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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I would think that if anyone managed to hit a bullet with a sword in RL, there would be a broken sword.... and for making clean cuts, I would think that the bullet spin would make it pretty much impossible.
| I've not done the numbers, but I would guess that if we assume a lead bullet (rather than one of those 'steel-jacketed' ones I've heard of (lead being soft)), a good-quality sword and the collision being onto the sharp of the blade, that a broken sword would definitely not happen.
Of course, I might be wrong. Any one done the numbers or have a youtube link?
[edit] ahha... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBFlYwluqMk
Of course, there are other videos showing swords being broken...
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47818 is a reply to message #47817 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 17:35   |
polarone Messages: 431 Registered: May 2011 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Wa... |
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| Laudator wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 17:12 | | Nicky82 wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:53 | | Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 21:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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I would think that if anyone managed to hit a bullet with a sword in RL, there would be a broken sword.... and for making clean cuts, I would think that the bullet spin would make it pretty much impossible.
| I've not done the numbers, but I would guess that if we assume a lead bullet (rather than one of those 'steel-jacketed' ones I've heard of (lead being soft)), a good-quality sword and the collision being onto the sharp of the blade, that a broken sword would definitely not happen.
Of course, I might be wrong. Any one done the numbers or have a youtube link?
[edit] ahha... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBFlYwluqMk
Of course, there are other videos showing swords being broken...
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The Mythbusters worked on this a few years ago. I forget how long ago exactly (and I am too lazy to check right now), but I am pretty sure that a sword can cut a bullet, but that no human would have a reaction time capable of doing it.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47819 is a reply to message #47811 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 18:20   |
awjs Messages: 524 Registered: May 2011 Location: U.S.A. |
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| Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 14:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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I am pretty sure I saw a Deadliest Warrior or Myth Buster episode (or something) were they tested if a katana could cut a bullet. I remember the result being that if the bullet hit the blade edge the bullet would get cut and the blade would get scratched, but the the person with the blade would simply have 2 holes instead of one. Assuming they somehow were fast enough to do this. (the test was shooting a sword that was held by a vice grip)
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47824 is a reply to message #47819 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 19:34   |
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Bladedancer Messages: 1162 Registered: January 2005 Location: Tennessee |
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| awjs wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 18:20 | | Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 14:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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I am pretty sure I saw a Deadliest Warrior or Myth Buster episode (or something) were they tested if a katana could cut a bullet. I remember the result being that if the bullet hit the blade edge the bullet would get cut and the blade would get scratched, but the the person with the blade would simply have 2 holes instead of one. Assuming they somehow were fast enough to do this. (the test was shooting a sword that was held by a vice grip)
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Exactly. For Chou, blocking with the flat of the blade would be the smarter thing but the force of impact would be insane. For a real samurai the flat would result in a bullet hole and a bit of blade lodged somewhere.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47825 is a reply to message #399 ] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 19:37   |
khade Messages: 1597 Registered: May 2011 Location: Rockies |
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Probably depends on if they were attempting to block or deflect, and to survive that, you'd have to get just the right angle at the right time, which is very likely impossible for a baseline, without even taking into account how hard it is to know where the bullet will go.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47853 is a reply to message #47824 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2011 02:35   |
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beyogi Messages: 942 Registered: May 2011 Location: Germany |
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| Bladedancer wrote on Tue, 08 November 2011 01:34 | | awjs wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 18:20 | | Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 14:46 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 05:57 | I must say, the bit about him cutting a pea-pod in half lengthwise is dang impressive. It feels like it has to be faked, but watching it in slow-mo is awesome.
...And as for cutting the bullet mid-flight... my head assplode 
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The peapod is pretty impressive, even if he got to set the height of the support at the optimal height for him to make a horizontal cut. So that's a bit of fudging there. Plus, no one said how many tries the guy got before the one that worked.
The bullet? It's not a bullet from a firearm. It's a plastic ball ejected from a launcher made to look like a real gun. The plastic is far easier to cut than a real bullet, and the speed of the launched ball is so slow that the man can draw his sword and slice through the air before the ball gets to him, from what, 16 meters away? And no one says this only took four or five tries. It might have taken all afternoon.
Chou can do this stuff EASILY.
Diane the curmudgeon
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I am pretty sure I saw a Deadliest Warrior or Myth Buster episode (or something) were they tested if a katana could cut a bullet. I remember the result being that if the bullet hit the blade edge the bullet would get cut and the blade would get scratched, but the the person with the blade would simply have 2 holes instead of one. Assuming they somehow were fast enough to do this. (the test was shooting a sword that was held by a vice grip)
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Exactly. For Chou, blocking with the flat of the blade would be the smarter thing but the force of impact would be insane. For a real samurai the flat would result in a bullet hole and a bit of blade lodged somewhere.
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Not really... since her sword won't be damaged the force of the impact will be lower than the recoil of the gun. Still it probably would be smarter to deflect shots than to block them, but the impulse and the energy of a bullet are not that high. The danger is the pressure it has on its tip.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47856 is a reply to message #47853 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2011 03:50   |
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mrudat Messages: 190 Registered: May 2011 Location: Canberra, Australia |
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I'd expect that any baseball or cricket player could have done the same to those tennis? balls if handed a sword. Actually, given the relative lack of speed the balls seemed to be leaving the machine with, I'd expect them to be able to do much better.
I'm impressed by the bullet, and "Oh, that poor sword" about cutting that pipe in half.
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| Re: Chou Lee [message #47860 is a reply to message #399 ] |
Tue, 08 November 2011 07:15   |
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Sir Lee Messages: 3072 Registered: May 2005 Location: São Paulo, Brazil |
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But note that pipe was fully supported, and it was still a bit dented as well as cut. I suspect a fairly soft alloy with fairly thin walls, in fact -- not exactly cheating, but, well, knowing the limits of what's possible. Still impressive.
However, this is a far cry from the katana's (legendary)(alleged)(bulls#it) ability to cut off a rifle's barrel, while said rifle was being held just by the hands of an enemy soldier: gun barrels are good steel, walls are fairly thick, and hands are poor support.
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