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Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39423 is a reply to message #39421 ] Fri, 20 May 2011 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rubberjohn  is currently offline rubberjohn
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If you look back through these threads you'll see that Warren explained that, for reasons unknown, the back-ups were indeed stored on the same disc as the live site. So when that disc crashed it took out the latest back-ups as well. Hence the roll back to early May 2009. It's Seemples!

John.
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39425 is a reply to message #39423 ] Fri, 20 May 2011 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
G-man88  is currently offline G-man88
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rubberjohn wrote on Fri, 20 May 2011 20:22
If you look back through these threads you'll see that Warren explained that, for reasons unknown, the back-ups were indeed stored on the same disc as the live site. So when that disc crashed it took out the latest back-ups as well. Hence the roll back to early May 2009. It's Seemples!

John.


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Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39428 is a reply to message #39425 ] Fri, 20 May 2011 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trollo
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Why not? He gave a legitimate answer to a mostly legitimate question, which is more than I can say for the near slanderous post that followed.

[Updated on: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:24]


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Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39439 is a reply to message #38760 ] Fri, 20 May 2011 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
khade  is currently offline khade
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I think it would be very funny to manage to have Trollo actually last a while, just because you have a Doctorate in Trolling, doesn't mean you have to be practicing, right?

Anyway, Welcome back, Trollo, here's to a long and hopefully somewhat amusing relationship. Smile
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39443 is a reply to message #38760 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lduke1990  is currently offline lduke1990
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Trollo, please get your criminal charges right, slander is defined as verbal, it should be the Libelous post that followed.

[Updated on: Sat, 21 May 2011 03:23]


it's an ell damnit
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39455 is a reply to message #39428 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nocte  is currently offline Nocte
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It's mostly because we had a user called trololol or something, who insinuated that the reason there wasn't an update that week was because Warren was lazy. This was during the tax season and Warren was extremely busy with non-Whateley stuff.

Needless to say, he was swiftly banned and the board rejoiced.


"On the other hand, maybe all this could have been avoided if you just managed to get laid once in a while. You can't even tell me you'd be this tightly wound if you were receiving Treasure Type O regularly" Roy Greenhilt
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39457 is a reply to message #39421 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mn--
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trollo wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 03:17

On an unrelated matter, or related depending on how you look at it, how does a single crash eliminate both the source and the backups? Presumably one wouldn't store the backup files for any media on the media that is being backed up.


For some definitions of "media".

I've seen disk crashes that took out or scrambled traffic across the whole bus (SCSI or IDE or FC or whatever), or more. One broken disk messing up the RAID controller some way or another hardly makes the news, and many people still think that RAID-1 on a single bus counts as "separate media" enough...



Why yes, I have had to deal with a RAID setup acting up because of one broken (hotswap) HD again within the last week.

[Updated on: Sat, 21 May 2011 08:25]

Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39458 is a reply to message #39457 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trollo
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khade wrote on Fri, 20 May 2011 22:39
I think it would be very funny to manage to have Trollo actually last a while, just because you have a Doctorate in Trolling, doesn't mean you have to be practicing, right?

Anyway, Welcome back, Trollo, here's to a long and hopefully somewhat amusing relationship. Smile


I'm always in practice! Frankly, I was surprised to have this account validated. I was trying to bank on Warren having enabled automated account validations because of the crash, but I underestimated his/her/other dedication.

It just means I'll have to be sneaky about leaving mayonnaise packets under peoples tires instead of throwing mustard at the wedding.

lduke1990 wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 00:42
Trollo, please get your criminal charges right, slander is defined as verbal, it should be the Libelous post that followed.


Ah, but is that a state or federal law? For example, assult & batter are two separate things in california but in texas it's just assult.

Nocte wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 07:20
It's mostly because we had a user called trololol or something, who insinuated that the reason there wasn't an update that week was because Warren was lazy. This was during the tax season and Warren was extremely busy with non-Whateley stuff.

Needless to say, he was swiftly banned and the board rejoiced.


I shall hold a moment of silence for a fallen brother/sister/sameperson.

mn-- wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 08:01
trollo wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 03:17

On an unrelated matter, or related depending on how you look at it, how does a single crash eliminate both the source and the backups? Presumably one wouldn't store the backup files for any media on the media that is being backed up.


Please define "media".

I've seen disk crashes that took out or scrambled traffic the whole bus (SCSI or IDE or FC or whatever), or more. One broken disk messing up the RAID controller some way or another hardly makes the news, and many people still think that RAID-1 on a single bus counts as "separate media" enough...


Why yes, I have had to deal with a RAID setup acting up because of one broken (hotswap) disk again within the last week.


Media as a word is sort of a variable defined in the manner it's used. An artists media are his paints and canvas, but if you were to say "An artist painting his media" it would just be his canvas or whatever his chosen surface is.

In the manner in which I used the term I would have assumed people would get the impression I was referring to a single non-mirrored drive. My troll senses tingled at the thought of someone storing a backup of a hard drive on the drive that was itself being backed up, as surely doing such a thing is unthinkable.

So as unthinkable as the previous situation was, though my surpassing intellect was more than able to think it as unthinkable as it may be, I was alternatively thinking thoughts that perhaps the backups were stored on a separate drive within the same machine and was curious as to what type of accident/atf/fbi seisure would destroy not one but both hard disks.


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Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39464 is a reply to message #38760 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lduke1990  is currently offline lduke1990
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Cracked head, seen that sort of thing kill a whole box.

[Updated on: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:26]

Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39484 is a reply to message #39458 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stereo  is currently offline Stereo
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trollo wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 08:27
I shall hold a moment of silence for a fallen sameperson.

It is a little sad to think of some troll hanging around waiting for a chance to register again, out in the cold for months.

Anyway, thanks Warren & Bob for all the work keeping the site running Smile


It scares the hell out of me, the end is all I can see.
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39488 is a reply to message #38760 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trollo
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Oh no, I just crap in someone elses buffet in the interm. Being an actual fan of the Whateley universe I couldn't help but notice a disaster of this magnitude. Using my troll sensory perception I was able to sense that now would be a good time to slip in not quite unnoticed.


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Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39499 is a reply to message #38760 ] Sat, 21 May 2011 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Laudator  is currently offline Laudator
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Just get people to make assumptions about your behaviour based solely upon your tag and they will troll themselves for you.
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39681 is a reply to message #39484 ] Mon, 23 May 2011 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Niknokitueu
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Stereo wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 18:03
trollo wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 08:27
I shall hold a moment of silence for a fallen sameperson.

It is a little sad to think of some troll hanging around waiting for a chance to register again, out in the cold for months.


That is the problem with trolls. As any AD&D fan knows, you cannot kill a troll with Cold. You need to use Fire! Evil or Very Mad

Have Fun!
Niknokitueu
ps. Acid works well too. Dude...


Do, or Do Not. There is no Try.
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39728 is a reply to message #39488 ] Mon, 23 May 2011 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kristin Darken  is currently offline Kristin Darken
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trollo wrote on Sat, 21 May 2011 10:45
to slip in not quite unnoticed.

The canon authors had a discussion on the day you reapplied about believing in giving second chances. We're perfectly fine with handing you all the rope you need to hang yourself. Wink


Kristin Darken

Once upon a time...
Re: Drive crash on the server [message #39730 is a reply to message #38760 ] Mon, 23 May 2011 19:34 Go to previous message
silento  is currently offline silento
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It's nice to see the mighty CC are benevolent in their own, somewhat ironic, way.
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