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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #48962 is a reply to message #48947 ] |
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| ETSMITH wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 02:26 |
When I was stationed in Maine it was a 50 mile journey to get to Boston. Maine, New Hampshire, and half of Massachusetts. I have a longer trip just getting out of Harris County (Houston). And West Texas high school football games are between schools that are frequently 250 miles apart - with bumper to bumper traffic before and after the games.
Europeans and Yankees have no concept of the distances between western locations.
(but then we have little concept of the crowding in Europe. An old joke in the nuclear forces was that "small towns in Germany are just 10 kt apart { a reference to the 10 km distance and the probable usage rate to stop Soviet armor })
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Hm, crowding... you know, it isn't quite *that* bad over here, and the further north you go...
Above something like 65˘ N is usually fairly uncrowded... except during tourist season in a few places.
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #48968 is a reply to message #48962 ] |
Tue, 29 November 2011 15:30 |
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| mn-- wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 09:44 | | ETSMITH wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 02:26 |
When I was stationed in Maine it was a 50 mile journey to get to Boston. Maine, New Hampshire, and half of Massachusetts. I have a longer trip just getting out of Harris County (Houston). And West Texas high school football games are between schools that are frequently 250 miles apart - with bumper to bumper traffic before and after the games.
Europeans and Yankees have no concept of the distances between western locations.
(but then we have little concept of the crowding in Europe. An old joke in the nuclear forces was that "small towns in Germany are just 10 kt apart { a reference to the 10 km distance and the probable usage rate to stop Soviet armor })
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Hm, crowding... you know, it isn't quite *that* bad over here, and the further north you go...
Above something like 65˘ N is usually fairly uncrowded... except during tourist season in a few places.
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England recently edged out The Netherlands as the most crowded country in Europe. And we thought it was crowded back in Victorian days.
The 10 km/ 10 mile distance between towns was pretty standard throughout the world until the post ww2 auto era dawned. It was simply a relation of towns supporting a farming market and the farmer needing to make a trip to market and back within 1 day. How many people lived in the town was a different matter.
Even East Texas adhered to that standard (my high school was formed by the consolidation of the schools of two towns 10 miles apart -- now has 5 high schools larger than the whole rural population back when I was a kid. Of course we were swallowed up by Houston back in 1955.
Of course we also had whole counties with a population under 100, it was so desolate that even the government officials for Loving County lived in the next county over. In East Texas the agriculture measure was how many cow-calf units per acre while out west it was how many acres per cow. Sort of like measuring the fuel economy of a compact car and a D-9 bulldozer.
Back in my youth, twice a year I paid a trip to that unpopulated area up north you talk about -- even went further and just sat in the water a few hundred miles northeast of North Cape. Nobody around to bother us for miles, and we liked it that way.
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #48970 is a reply to message #48968 ] |
Tue, 29 November 2011 15:47 |
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| ETSMITH wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 21:30 | Back in my youth, twice a year I paid a trip to that unpopulated area up north you talk about -- even went further and just sat in the water a few hundred miles northeast of North Cape. Nobody around to bother us for miles, and we liked it that way.
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And now there are cell phones, even with nobody to be seen in miles you can still be bothered.
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #48983 is a reply to message #48970 ] |
Tue, 29 November 2011 21:21 |
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| Nicky82 wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 15:47 | | ETSMITH wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 21:30 | Back in my youth, twice a year I paid a trip to that unpopulated area up north you talk about -- even went further and just sat in the water a few hundred miles northeast of North Cape. Nobody around to bother us for miles, and we liked it that way.
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And now there are cell phones, even with nobody to be seen in miles you can still be bothered.
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Even back in the '60s the folks at the head office could reach out and bother us from thousands of miles away. On average once a week we would receive a message and have to rush around and prove that we were wide awake and ready to go to work to earn our magnificent salaries. (I started out at $300 a month and had moved up to about $600 a month)
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #49000 is a reply to message #48970 ] |
Wed, 30 November 2011 08:06 |
mn--
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| Nicky82 wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 22:47 | | ETSMITH wrote on Tue, 29 November 2011 21:30 | Back in my youth, twice a year I paid a trip to that unpopulated area up north you talk about -- even went further and just sat in the water a few hundred miles northeast of North Cape. Nobody around to bother us for miles, and we liked it that way.
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And now there are cell phones, even with nobody to be seen in miles you can still be bothered.
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You know, North Cape got cellular phone coverage of sorts quite long ago, really. Norwegian OLT, 0-generation, enter your cell number manually kind of cellular... opened for use in 1966, not sure when the coverage was "complete".
There were multimode car phones that could do both OLT and ARP (the Finnish equivalent) eventually. I remember using such a thing in the 80s.
Those networks had much longer usable range than later ones, too... depending on your antenna and transmission power only. None of that silly business with timeslots and packet round-trip times, as with GSM and...
[Updated on: Wed, 30 November 2011 08:14]
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #49006 is a reply to message #49000 ] |
Wed, 30 November 2011 10:17 |
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To try to get this back on track, is Nimbus Hekate's Master, or are all the references to him that keep popping up just red herrings.
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #49022 is a reply to message #49019 ] |
Wed, 30 November 2011 16:41 |
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Personally I think that (assuming that it's someone we've seen before) he would have to be someone that no one would suspect, someone able to acquire information easily: Peeper.
"Quote."
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #49051 is a reply to message #49029 ] |
Thu, 01 December 2011 09:56 |
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| beyogi wrote on Thu, 01 December 2011 01:40 |
Bah.. it'S obiously belle...
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Sebbie (aka "The Don") would disagree with you, as his research has showed that Hekate's master was not registered as a wizard. And while beltane is Wz0, she's still a wizard.
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| Re: Villains of the Whateley Verse [message #49073 is a reply to message #49051 ] |
Fri, 02 December 2011 02:46 |
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| Sojiro wrote on Thu, 01 December 2011 15:56 | | beyogi wrote on Thu, 01 December 2011 01:40 |
Bah.. it'S obiously belle...
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Sebbie (aka "The Don") would disagree with you, as his research has showed that Hekate's master was not registered as a wizard. And while beltane is Wz0, she's still a wizard.
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Really? How did he do it?
Using the services of a devisor, could the devisor have really traced Mr X?
Maybe, but just think to the Necromancer using magic to identify who was calling him in BB3, now just think at how much experience and power Mr X has, and how long he has to have been skitting around Whateley security without anyone having an idea (it came out only after Hekate tried to enslave Fey), how likely is that Donny got the right person? How likely is that Mr X is laughing his ass at him?
[Updated on: Fri, 02 December 2011 02:48]
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