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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59800 is a reply to message #59798 ] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 11:37   |
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 Nicky82
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| Sojiro wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 16:27 | From the examples we have, children of mutant superheroes (or villain) parents have a 100% manifestation rate (Tennyo and her siblings, the Diabolik children, Jobe, the STAR League Jr, Sophia, etc...). In all cases where we know all of the children from a couple of super-hero mutants, they have all manifested.
Of course, given that the stories are written from the point of view of mutant kids, we have a very strong bias here. Which is why you should be looking at siblings of core characters, mostly.
But even with that, a 100% rate is incredibly high compared to the normal rate (which is way lower than 0.01%, IIRC it is 10 to 100 times lower than that).
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I think that the Jadis and Malachai shouldn't be in that list, Dr Diabolik is a baseline and we know nothing for sure about the mother (she may or may not be the White Witch, but so far we just know what Jadis fears and hope.... plus the scene at the end of Thre's an Angel in Dickenson Cottage), saying that they are mutants because their father is a supervillain doesn't make sense, he is basically a brilliant scientist who has chosen to operate outside the law plus some implanted cybernetics.
Also Phoenixfire's father isn't a superhero, he's a banker (the lucky man got an exemplar wife.... but he has to live with a wife that risk her life quite frequently and a daughter that is following her footsteps, poor dad), so there isn't the 'both parents are mutants' factor there.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59801 is a reply to message #22451 ] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 12:26 |
Glimmervoid
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The Braeburn Report agrees on the superheroes beget superheroes thing. It even gives numbers but how much you trust them is up to you.
| Quote: | "As we move closer to the present day, an increasing percentage of mutants breed true. I don't mean that the powers pass identically from parent to child, but that is rising, as well. What I mean is that the entire meta-gene complex is being passed on. Here's another issue: that complex of genes is the same in modern form as Gian Han displayed back in 1900. Mutants prior to that showed progressively wilder divergences. We still get some wild differences, but once again, they don't usually breed true."
"What if both parents are mutants?"
"Good catch," I agreed. "Then there's a 98% chance the child will be a mutant, too. For a single mutant parent, mother or father, there's a 29% chance of mutant offspring. But here's the kicker. In 1920, that number was 14%. It has been rising ever since, apparently following the positive exponential curve portion of a logistic-like curve."
Peter was stunned. "An exponential... why?"
I shrugged. "We don't know. We don't know what triggers latent into active, either. A viral infection? Some sort of prion? A nutritional or psychological stimulus? Maybe there's some psychic trigger that our instruments can't even detect! We just don't know!"
"But if it's exponential, you must be able to calculate when it peaks."
"Yes," I conceded. "Sometime in the year 2055. If you believe the pure mathematics, that year we will achieve a rate of 99.9% of mutant parents 'breeding true.'"
Peter snorted. We both knew enough of statistics to understand that the model was just that. It was a trend that would hold true through a certain region, and then break down into chaos once more.
"I was concerned, though," I continued. "You may not be aware of this, but among our Special Assets, the Office does include several precogs. I had them tune in, to see if they could tell me anything about that year. It was useless. In fact, predictions that broad, dealing with mutantkind in general, hit a block within two years. Shortly after the year 2008 starts, the predictions about just fade out. Not for everything, of course, but for the general issue of mutant affairs."
"Hmmm. So where do you go from here?"
"I need to refine my data, and the statistics. I think I need to visit the notorious Whateley Academy and check through some of their records."
"Good luck. They're famous for being tight with their data."
"And there's one last piece of the puzzle," I revealed wearily. "That figure of 29% that breed true? That's the aggregate figure. If the parents fall into a special category physically demanding, high risk, regular life-threatening dependence on their mutant abilities, then the children are much more likely to inherit the meta-gene complex to the tune of about 80% likely, though the sample is too small for accurate statistics. Furthermore, the children are vastly more likely to be triggered into active mutant abilities themselves. Again, an 80% or 90% chance."
"So the children of superheroes become superheroes."
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59844 is a reply to message #59800 ] |
Wed, 13 June 2012 05:23 |
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Sojiro
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| Nicky82 wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 17:37 |
I think that the Jadis and Malachai shouldn't be in that list, Dr Diabolik is a baseline
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No.
That was a dodged used by the Green Witch to deflect the accusations of a H1 creep, and even then she only states that she doesn't have any reason to think he's anything but an intelligent baseline. It is NOT cannon that Dr Diabolik is a non mutant, despite what is widely believed on this forum.
The fact that both his children are manifested mutants tells use that there is very little chance of him being a baseline.
| Nicky82 wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 17:37 | and we know nothing for sure about the mother (she may or may not be the White Witch, but so far we just know what Jadis fears and hope.... plus the scene at the end of Thre's an Angel in Dickenson Cottage)
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And from that scene we know that it is extremely likely that Jadis's mother is an active super heroine.
And even without that, it sets a minimum. having both parents be mutants would only increase the probability.
| Nicky82 wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 17:37 | saying that they are mutants because their father is a supervillain doesn't make sense, he is basically a brilliant scientist who has chosen to operate outside the law plus some implanted cybernetics.
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We know they are mutants because they are at Whateley. We know that if the parents are not mutants, there is a very low chance of both children being mutants, plus Diabolik's achievements are impressive for a Gadgeteer, let alone for a baseline. That's why we can conclude he's almost certainly a mutant.
Then we know that having your parents be not only mutants but actively engaged in super activity raises the chances of manifesting. Which is all we need here.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #60129 is a reply to message #60125 ] |
Mon, 18 June 2012 01:01 |
pedestrian
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| Sara Waite said after Thu, 26 October 2006 10:46 | Some of you may be thinking at this point: Can I pass on my genes? Can I have children if my genetic code is so amazingly deviant? The answer to some of you is yes and some of you no.
"Each of you is an individual, formed by the dictates of your Overpattern and the individual rules it follows. That Overpattern is imbued in your sperm or your eggs, like every other part of you, something beyond your genetic code. Combined when you mate, the patterns are so incredibly complex that the end result is completely unpredictable. The Overpatterns have been known to alter the genetic structure of sperm and eggs in order to facilitate otherwise impossible combinations themselves to produce new life. That is why mundanes can be born to mutant parents, or mutants from mundanes, and why two Exemplar Sixes can mate to produce an Energizer Two. The interaction of the patterns is all that matters towards the end result. It is also why some of you grow horns or spontaneously change sex or any of a thousand other permutations. All that information is stored in the Overpattern, to be accessed when, where and how the program dictates."
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P.S. I just realized the clock is off by half an hour from just about any major timezone.
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