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Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68323] Tue, 09 February 2010 03:10 Go to next message
mittfh  is currently offline mittfh  UNITED KINGDOM
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Person 1: suggests opponents for a sim match:
Individual vs Individual
Individual vs Team
Team vs Team

Person 2: predicts the outcome of the match and their reasoning.
Person 2: suggests the next set of opponents for a sim match.

Etc.

I'm sure you get the idea.

To kick you off, let's be extra evil:

Ayla 8.2 mentions Sara's been having fun with her Aliens™-inspired scenario we first saw in "The OP" - so what would happen when it's TK's turn to face her? Smile

Sara vs TK


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68327 is a reply to message #68323 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Faraway  is currently offline Faraway  RUSSIAN FEDERATION
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Now that is a question. First we need to know if they know whom they are facing. However, as it is:

Hank - Lust Aura to the max - without PSI protection he's toast
Chaka - Tentacle wall
Chou (she is included, isn't she?) - same as Chaka - take their leverage away and they are doomed.
Jade - depends on how she acts - at her full power she may just be able to prove herself unpinnable and attack from afar. Or scout - this would be invaluable.
Fey - dispatchable from ambush
Tennyo... Now this is harder. There is practically no way to physically subdue her, so Mindrape is in order. Possible Jade Hostage scenario.
Ayla - also Lust Aura.

So my guess is if they don't know whom they are facing then Fey can't implement some warding that will be crucial in this case. It was this that severely dampened efforts of the Grunts. So I guess

Winner: Sara - if TK is uninformed of their opponent.

If they are they they will plan it accordingly. Chou and Chaka and Fey can detect the void that is Sara, Jade can spy for booby-traps, Ayla and Hank are not easily subdued and the others will be under Fey's shielding just in case. Sara will have most of her offensive capabilities made ineffective, so

Winner: TK - if TK knows whom they are facing. I would also like to point out that they are likely already thinking about this scenario one way or another, given what Sara is and preparing for the worst.

Other thought - we also need to say the simulated situation if it differs from straight-up fight. For example, if the scenario was - TK is in Boston shopping in different parts of mall, and Sara is there to hunt them secretly - she has a good chance to pick them one on one.

So, without further ado:
The Goobers are on the hunt, for a GOO Sorcerer within corrupted land. Tennyo and Jade are also in the area with a separate objective in mind. This is a three sides scenario, where Tennyo and Jade have to finish their mission before the Sorcerer escapes or is destroyed by the Goobers (they need him to be in the area, alive, for the duration of their mission). They also need to maintain a lwo profile until they get what they want.

Sorcerer vs Tennyo and Jade vs The Goobers.
The main question is - will the Goobers be the first or will the TK members be.


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68330 is a reply to message #68323 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm.

Well, Tennyo would easily be able to subdue, if not kill, the sorcerer. That's a given. Whether she'd be able to do it quietly...

I have a feeling Jade could beat the GOObers without alerting them to her prescence. She'd probably be able to charge up a tree, and since 90% of the trees in an area are interconnected, she could control the whole forest. The GOObers would probably not suspect Jade, since corrupted land could have many effects. But it would be funny to see Nightbane's reaction when, every time she turns around, the trees have formed a dead end.

WINNER: TENNYO/JADE

Jobe has finally finished his mobile lab; a briefcase full of his experimental toxins and draughts that he can take anywhere. Loophole has just finished a portable assembly line that can turn everyday objects into all-new items, from coffee pots to cannons. The two get into an argument about which tool is better. Who wins?

JOBE VS. LOOPHOLE Place your bets.


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68331 is a reply to message #68323 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AngelForm  is currently offline AngelForm  UNITED KINGDOM
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@Faraway
Sorry mate but we have way too little info.
What are Tennyo and Jade trying to achieve?
What's the area? Size? Terrain? Visibility?
What is the Sorcerer doing?

The only way this type of game can be played is if its mostly a straight fight and with Tennyo included its almost a forgone conclusion.


BTW you drastically underestimate Hank's tactics, Ayla resistance and Jade's numerical advantage.

If they have the same info the grunts had then picking them off one at a time wont be possible as none have a reason to not be on the front lines.
Ayla managed to stay sane when faced with the true form of a very powerful demon, I don't think a GOO barely out of diapers will have much better luck.
I don't recall Sara having any powers that could stop Shroud or Spinner.

An ambush would probably kill a couple of them but they just have to much raw power to lose outright.


Lets try:
S.T.A.R league Jr vs. TK in the Breakfast Brawl.

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Damn, ninjaed Sad
@Orichalcon
My bet goes to the highly experienced and very ruthless psychopath to defeat the Rules lawyer.

[Updated on: Tue, 09 February 2010 08:23]


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68332 is a reply to message #68330 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee  BRAZIL
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Orichalcon: You are overlooking the limits in Jade's powers. She simply can't possess anything as large as a forest, nor can one of her extra-selves move from tree to tree.


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68339 is a reply to message #68331 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Faraway  is currently offline Faraway  RUSSIAN FEDERATION
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@ AngelForm
If you wanna know:
Orichalcon mostly got my idea right - terrain is 'haunted forest' mostly. Sorcerer is, say maintaining open a fissure in the fabric of spacetime, and Jade and Tennyo have a short business on the other side. Like 'place a beacon/take a rock from other side/activate a magic data probe and skedaddle' type, which is why they need stealth on way in.

Sorcerer himself is, say keeping the fissure open because it disturbs The Evil That Sleeps' slumber which would make it possible to get a hold on it in the future, and is now waiting till the analytic charms finish their work.

Someone else could answer your challenge.


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68368 is a reply to message #68331 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Star League Jr. vs. TK Breakfast Brawl.

Star League would probably win, as they have their teamwork down, and at the time of the BB, TK was still trying to figure things out. It would be close, and they would have to get Tennyo to surrender by threatening her teammates.

Of course, this assumes that the Star League had advance warning of who they were going to fight.

Outcast Corner (with Eldritch) VS Dragonslayer Sim


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68373 is a reply to message #68323 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AngelForm  is currently offline AngelForm  UNITED KINGDOM
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I was actually thinking of the sim version of TK that Ayla describes.
Fey sitting behind a force field while spaming lightning bolts. Tennyo as a psychotic killing machine. Etc.
Rather than the actual TK from the Breakfast Brawl.


"This calls for a carefully measured response… such as orbital bombardment!" - Dr. Diabolik
Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68374 is a reply to message #68368 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A-Eadie wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 19:22
Outcast Corner (with Eldritch) VS Dragonslayer Sim


Well, Eldritch defeated the Dragonslayers sim *by herself*. If she had the chance to minimally train the Outcasts so they will be a help instead of a hindrance, this is an Outcasts victory hands down.


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68390 is a reply to message #68374 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought it was mentioned that they didn't have the level all the way up when Eldritch went up against them, and they kept increasing the level to see how far she could go.


There is no overkill. There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'
Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68397 is a reply to message #68323 ] Tue, 09 February 2010 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carmilla vs Jimmy T. They're he two highest level shifters on campus, right? Shapeshifters' duels tend to be spectacular.
Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68428 is a reply to message #68397 ] Wed, 10 February 2010 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also, Carmilla is a Psi and Jimmy is a Psychic null, and both of them have pretty high regen, so they can go pretty violent without risking to really hurt each other. Shouldn't be a sim match though, much more fun on the Arena '99 floor.


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68429 is a reply to message #68397 ] Wed, 10 February 2010 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heliomance wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 02:28
Carmilla vs Jimmy T. They're he two highest level shifters on campus, right? Shapeshifters' duels tend to be spectacular.


I'd put my money on Sara. After all, she's got a lust aura, psionics and tentacles as well as the ability to shapeshift.

Now, since we've had occasional mention of simulated opponents, how about this for complete and utter evilness:

TK vs Dark TK

"Dark TK" are a simulated version of TK, but psychotic and very p*ss*d off. For any other team, staying alive until time-out is the best possible outcome when faced with Dark Tennyo alone. But since TK think they know everything there is to know about themselves...
Oh, and one slight concession - Dark TK will be kitted out with slightly different costumes to Real TK (not that they'd have any trouble working out who was who!)

[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 03:06]


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68433 is a reply to message #68429 ] Wed, 10 February 2010 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mittfh wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 19:04
Heliomance wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 02:28
Carmilla vs Jimmy T. They're he two highest level shifters on campus, right? Shapeshifters' duels tend to be spectacular.


I'd put my money on Sara. After all, she's got a lust aura, psionics and tentacles as well as the ability to shapeshift.

Now, since we've had occasional mention of simulated opponents, how about this for complete and utter evilness:

TK vs Dark TK

"Dark TK" are a simulated version of TK, but psychotic and very p*ss*d off. For any other team, staying alive until time-out is the best possible outcome when faced with Dark Tennyo alone. But since TK think they know everything there is to know about themselves...
Oh, and one slight concession - Dark TK will be kitted out with slightly different costumes to Real TK (not that they'd have any trouble working out who was who!)


FINALLY!

Dark Kimbas win by a landslide. The main plan for the Dark Kimbas would be to divide the Kimbas, then knock them out and steal their clothing and equipment, dressing their light counterpart in the dark counterparts costumes. When the light counterpart wakes up and tries to reunite with their teammates, they get attacked by their team-mates.

My turn!

Fractious vs Golden Girl

[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 04:16]


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Re: Fantasy Sim Matches [message #68434 is a reply to message #68429 ] Wed, 10 February 2010 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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mittfh wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 13:04
TK vs Dark TK
Oohh! The ubiquitous Mirror Match! You just had to do it. didn't you?

I, for one, think that at the current stage of development TK would lose - Dark TK has pulled all the stops and is therefore more powerful than the TK. However, they would lack the ingenuity of the originals, so they can be beaten, so I can clearly not choose Dark TK as a winner. On the other hand, this match can be very well tailored to include all the tactics of TK so Dark TK can be pretty much precog-like, so I can clearly not choose TK as a winner!..

You get my idea, don't you? Wink


Never mind, I'm just a guy. OTOH, recently I became a self-proclaimed Paragon of Snarkiness.

"Murphy's Law Firm, anything that can go wrong, will go wrong, and if it hasn't we can ensure that it does. This is Murphy, how can I help you?"
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