| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68301 is a reply to message #6247 ] |
Mon, 08 February 2010 23:49   |
 Elorie 
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Actually, Lancer only managed to win against Phase because his PK field could touch the insubstantial Phase.
On the other hand, in Parents' Day, the density changing ninja was not so affected... but he's a intradimensional warper. Is that an error? Can Lemure go through a PK brick's field?
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68302 is a reply to message #68301 ] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 00:05 |
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Nekomata-sensei
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Actually, I think you are looking at this wrong. An intra-dimensional density warper displaces themselves to another dimension in some ways to travel. An extra-dimensional density warper, like Ayla, displaces other people and objects and space around him, but remains in normal space himself. Force fields and PK fields and stuff protect things from being displaced by him, which is why he can't go through them. With intra-dimensional warpers, there are likely some force fields that don't block them, and some that do, depending on how much they phase out of normal space, and how that force field interacts with the space they enter.
"She sounded like a dangerous kidnapper." Kyon's thoughts, concerning Haruhi's motives for abducting Mikuru into their new club.
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68360 is a reply to message #68333 ] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 15:22 |
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Diane Castle
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| AngelForm wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 05:39 | Couple of thoughts.
Hank is at the absolute bottom of his power rating, if bombshell has the same TK-5 ratting but a different level of power she must be stronger.
Hank has faced exactly three bricks in direct combat, Hip, Kodiak and an AI of Imperious. Hip and Hank mostly play fight so its hard to say who is better. Kodiak got blindsided without his spirit form thingy up. Hank did smack Imperious down but again from ambush and the AI probably was no match for the real thing.
The all the major team fight had him getting CCed/Kited rather than fighting most of the time.
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We also don't know if his power rating has had to be adjusted after everything he's gone through so far at Whateley.
Hip is *not* playing around there. Because of her backstory, she seriously does not like TG girls who switched to the other team, like Lancer. Okay, Hank is enjoying it some, because he's not really getting hurt.
Hank curbstomped the Whateley Martial Arts Cheerleaders, and they have a brick in their core group.
Hank clobbered Matterhorn before Nightgaunt slapped a *bomb* on Hank. The bomb did more damage to the already-down Matterhorn, though.
Eldritch definitely counts as a brick.
Since Hank doesn't have an author, you haven't seen all the times he fought other bricks in Ito's aikido class or in Lillian Dennon's special 'bricks and ultra-dense' class which he has managed to get into later in Fall Term. Although Ayla counts as a brick and you got to see Hank *clobber* him.
We have no idea what *his* Christmas was like.
Diane
[Updated on: Tue, 09 February 2010 15:23]
"WHO has deactivated my BEAUTIFUL frogs?"
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68371 is a reply to message #6247 ] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 16:30 |
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AngelForm 
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| Diane Castle wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 20:22 | Hip is *not* playing around there. Because of her backstory, she seriously does not like TG girls who switched to the other team, like Lancer. Okay, Hank is enjoying it some, because he's not really getting hurt.
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Given she is a master grappler and leverage is one of the weaknesses of a TK-shield I get the impression that she isn't putting any real effort into hurting him. Not to say she pulls her punches but its more mutual stress relief than actual combat.
| Quote: | Hank curbstomped the Whateley Martial Arts Cheerleaders, and they have a brick in their core group.
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Don't remember that one, what story is it in?
| Quote: | Hank clobbered Matterhorn before Nightgaunt slapped a *bomb* on Hank. The bomb did more damage to the already-down Matterhorn, though.
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Was not sure giants count as bricks.
Given Mr. Improvised Weapon got straight back up I would not really call it clobbered. Anyway Superhero combat traditionally involves all invulnerable participants getting smashed into the scenery at least once.
| Quote: | Eldritch definitely counts as a brick.
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I discounted that fight because Eldritch did not fight as a brick. Instead using both magical and mundane weapons while running around like a rabbit on speed.
| Quote: | Since Hank doesn't have an author, you haven't seen all the times he fought other bricks in Ito's aikido class or in Lillian Dennon's special 'bricks and ultra-dense' class which he has managed to get into later in Fall Term.
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So Hank got to the advanced class? That's interesting.
| Quote: | Although Ayla counts as a brick and you got to see Hank *clobber* him.
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True, I tend not to think of Phase as a brick due to his understandable reluctance to stay heavy and dook it out with people. Unless they are giants 
"This calls for a carefully measured response… such as orbital bombardment!" - Dr. Diabolik
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68491 is a reply to message #68468 ] |
Thu, 11 February 2010 08:05 |
mittfh
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| KingTwelveSixteen wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:01 | | XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 19:43 | | Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 11:49 |
And yes, he hasn't developed more because he didn't have an author. Consider how much Ayla has developed since I started writing him, starting with the whole extra-dimensional / intra-dimensional Warper deal and his utility belt.
Diane
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Is that a hint? Or just a slip of the fingers?
Xaltatun
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Dun, duun, duuuunaaaaa! 
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Looks like it was just a slip of the fingers 
| Diane Castle wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 20:23 | Since Hank doesn't have an author
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Although if someone did take responsibility for Hank, they'd have to be a very prolific author to stand a hope's chance in hell of catching up with the rest of the Canon characters - especially since they might have to revise whatever they did write as soon as they started ploughing through the weighty tome that is the Whateley Bible (which would be dropped on their lap as soon as they were accepted into the fold)...
There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand Binary and those who don't.
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68493 is a reply to message #68491 ] |
Thu, 11 February 2010 08:57 |
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Nekoali
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I personally would love to see life through Hank's eyes. Being something outside of my field of experience, life as a F2M person is something of a mystery to me, despite having several F2M friends.
I think it would be rather cool and fun to be a Whateley writer, but again, there's lack of familiarity with the source material for Lancer (I'm not that familiar with F2M issues, military brat issues, living with gay guy issues, being a guy in general or any of that). And the large time commitment of writing a major character would be absolutely huge...
Still, one day I hope that someone adopts Hank so we can see life through his eyes.
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68843 is a reply to message #68507 ] |
Sun, 14 February 2010 21:29 |
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VeryZenn
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I've been mucking about writing a Hank story but some of the bits and pieces of his (albeit minimal) back story are giving me fits.
ANYWAY
I saw on the Wiki that his dad is listed as a Colonel.
Is that correct? I know some parts of the Wiki are a little out of date.
Oh and Happy Valentines Day. 
~Matt
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68845 is a reply to message #68844 ] |
Sun, 14 February 2010 22:47 |
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VeryZenn
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Okie dokie. Thanks a lot.
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| Re: Harriet / Hank Declan / Lancer [message #68922 is a reply to message #6247 ] |
Tue, 16 February 2010 08:34 |
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Hank's also potentially interesting because we see so little of his underlying self. He's a polite, respectful military brat on the surface. But what does he really think?
He's the only F2M mutant in his year, as far as we know. Are there any others in Poe? Has Hank met them?
This also most likely makes him the only straight guy on his floor at Poe. He's the only one not peeking in the showers, and he's got to know that at least intellectually. How does he handle it?
What's it like having a MMID instead of a regular MID? Does he think it separates him from most of the other students? From the rest of Team Kimba - who are also all classified female?
Does he hang out with anyone else around campus? Did he ever get wisecracks made about being on a "girlie team"? Does he have to deal with hidden or open resentment about being the only guy on a team full of hotties?
We've seen a bit of his romance with Wallflower, but not really from his point of view. What was going through his mind? And what's the deal with Hip?
How's he feel about being effectively locked into a future military career? Does it bug him? Does he accept it? Is he eagerly looking forward to it? Does he have reservations? Does he keep getting approached by recruiters?
What are the brick-specific classes like? Does Hank feel a little weird about having such stereotypical powers compared to the rest of TK? Has he been considering holdouts other than his paper swords? Do people consider him a bit nutty because he's in Poe? Or do they think he's the least weird of TK, and keep asking him what the deal is with the others?
Does he have any hobbies? Play sport? Collect anything? Have some form of art expression? I think there was something about him using the weights room, but not really elaborated on much.
Is there even any WoG on any of this behind the scenes (in order to fit into future stories), or would it all be the demesne of the brave writer who took on the challenge?
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