| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62437 is a reply to message #62433 ] |
Thu, 26 July 2012 19:22   |
 GinnCaster5
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| Laudator wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 16:09 | | GinnCaster5 wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 20:58 | Yeah, in a junior and senior combat final, Tennyo probably won't be allowed to fight unless the entire combat final takes place in the sims. And if they really want to make things tough on TK, they'll make the entire Grunts team take on only Jade, Phase, and Hank. Which will end in all of two seconds when Bunker psi-blasts the lot of them into oblivion.
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I know that Jinn, Jann et al. are vulnerable to psi, but I can't recall evidence either way that psi attacks wouldn't work as well on Jade-physical as Cardiac's fear aura...
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Jade-physical's resistance. Not sure how strong the resistance is and if she's a psi-null or not, but it seems to actually extend to her Jinn-casts. When Hamper tried to use his mind-hampering psi ability on Jinn, it had absolutely no effect because, as Hamper said to himself at the time, she has no real mind (or at least no brain to affect the mind through), but Damper could turn off her PK.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62438 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Thu, 26 July 2012 19:27 |
Rockhound
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Which begs the question:
Is Ayla going to invest in anti-psi devices?
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62441 is a reply to message #62438 ] |
Thu, 26 July 2012 19:29 |
GinnCaster5
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| Rockhound wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 19:27 | Which begs the question:
Is Ayla going to invest in anti-psi devices?
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He should. And get Hank some, too.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62442 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Thu, 26 July 2012 20:16 |
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Oh yeah, check out Ayla's swish new Mithril-foil hat!
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62451 is a reply to message #62442 ] |
Fri, 27 July 2012 07:59 |
Niknokitueu
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| ShinZed wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 01:16 | Oh yeah, check out Ayla's swish new Mithril-foil hat!
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Henh. It would probably look a bit like this one.
Have Fun!
Niknokitueu
Do, or Do Not. There is no Try.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62460 is a reply to message #62433 ] |
Fri, 27 July 2012 14:11 |
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Sojiro
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| Laudator wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 22:09 | I know that Jinn, Jann et al. are vulnerable to psi
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Actually while Jinn is vulnerable to some psy attacks (notably those that knock her out of the items she's holding onto) she is also resistant to other psychic attacks, due to not having a human mind to affect. We have several examples of psy attacks that would have worked on a human but completely failed to affect her because she didn't have the parts of the human mind those were suppose to target.
So while she does have a mind that appears to be susceptible to some sorts of psy attacks, and while those are often the best way to deal with her given how unkillable she is, I would hardly call Jinn "vulnerable" to psy.
| Laudator wrote on Thu, 26 July 2012 22:09 | but I can't recall evidence either way that psi attacks wouldn't work as well on Jade-physical as Cardiac's fear aura...
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Jade's immunity to Cardiac's fear aura is something special. It's tied to one of jade's mysteries that babs enjoyed teasing us about. The little pipsqueak seems to be quite simply immune to fear. We have another example of her being entirely immune (not just resistant) to another fear aura when she sits down right next to Phobos and doesn't even feel it.
But beyond her immunity to fear, Jade's dual mind nature when she has Jann-sensei active makes her quite resistant to most psy attacks.
| GinnCaster5 wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 01:22 | Oh yeah, I forgot about Jade-physical's resistance. Not sure how strong the resistance is and if she's a psi-null or not, but it seems to actually extend to her Jinn-casts.
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Jade is definitely not psy-null, she was affected by psychic powers. A good example would be Tansy's unnoticeability aura. It did affect Jade enough for her to completely miss the sow, and it did slightly affect Jann-sensei so that she didn't notice her as trivially as she should have had (that example also proves that Jinns are psychic-resistant to some extent).
She ignored Cardiac's aura because she's totally immune to fear. She also appear to be entirely immune to lust-inducing auras, as Sara was completely unable to affect her even when focusing full blast on Jade (and it was powerful enough to nail everyone else in the area despite being focused on Jade).
But the resistance to fear is absolute. Cardiac's aura is strong enough to kill pretty much anyone and Jade didn't feel it at all. Not even the tiniest hint of fear or worry. Note that even Tennyo's resistance isn't that good, as she can sort of feel Fey's aura for a few seconds before the effect fades. So Tennyo is extremely resistant to psychic attacks, enough to be barely aware of the most powerful of the attacks, but not quite immune as she does feel those a little bit ; but Jade is just flat-out immune to fear auras (and there has been no mention of her being especially resistant to Fey's glamour).
| GinnCaster5 wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 01:22 | When Hamper tried to use his mind-hampering psi ability on Jinn, it had absolutely no effect because, as Hamper said to himself at the time, she has no real mind (or at least no brain to affect the mind through), but Damper could turn off her PK.
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That's another good illustration of how Jinn's lack of a normal human mind makes her immune to some mental attacks, but do note that the twins are Energizers, not Psychics.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62464 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Fri, 27 July 2012 15:36 |
GinnCaster5
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I thought Hamper was a psi because he made people not notice him and his brother trying to bully Techwolf into going away at the train station. I know Damper isn't, but I think it said somewhere that he dampens powers by dampening the brain's ability to activate them. If that's true, then he's a sort of psi. Either that or a psychic energizer, and I don't know if there's a real difference.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62465 is a reply to message #51709 ] |
Fri, 27 July 2012 15:44 |
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Jade is a Kender? 
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62468 is a reply to message #62464 ] |
Fri, 27 July 2012 16:01 |
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Sojiro
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| GinnCaster5 wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 21:36 | I thought Hamper was a psi because he made people not notice him and his brother trying to bully Techwolf into going away at the train station.
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You're not the only one!
But apparently, what they are doing isn't really psychic.
There's more than one way to create a mental effect, after all.
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| Re: Ayla 9: Ayla and the Scientist [message #62473 is a reply to message #62468 ] |
Fri, 27 July 2012 17:29 |
GinnCaster5
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| Sojiro wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 16:01 | | GinnCaster5 wrote on Fri, 27 July 2012 21:36 | I thought Hamper was a psi because he made people not notice him and his brother trying to bully Techwolf into going away at the train station.
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You're not the only one!
But apparently, what they are doing isn't really psychic.
There's more than one way to create a mental effect, after all.
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Really? So how else does one create an unnoticeability field and brain fuzziness?
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