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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61408 is a reply to message #60634 ] |
Tue, 10 July 2012 14:12   |
 grover
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Assuming he does plan to attack the Kimbas, do you really think he's going after Jade who rated so low on the combat final she was at the bottom of the list? Plus remember she's listed as a Deviser. She has no powers he wants.
I'll bet he'd target Tennyo, Fey, Phase, Hank, Chaka and others before he get to Jade. Then she'll eat his ass for lunch. Seeing him beat the crap out of her friends will have blood in her eyes. Shape Shifter or not he has to breath, and we saw how fast she took out Hank that way.
I don't know if he could get anything from Jinn or not. Both Fey and Tennyo are Avatars so he might be able to capture her. I think to get Jades powers he would have copy her.
I really see him avoiding that but Kimba is really only six kids, and he has six slots now that Chou is gone. If another member pops up or he manages to add a PPD to the deal with his trap then all of his slots is full, and then Jade can cut loose.
Her BIT lock I think, if it even effected him at all lasts only 4 hours. We don't even know if he gets the vulnerabilities of his targets although since he copies a whole person, he might.
Remember these Dark Phoenix sims are training them to face their own teammates powers, so that will help too.
Grover
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61410 is a reply to message #61408 ] |
Tue, 10 July 2012 14:47 |
GinnCaster5
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Wait, where did Jade take out Hank?
He'll go after Tennyo, which will instantly get Jade seeing red, so when Tennyo flies away from him and throws Jade at him, he's screwed. Also, aren't Tennyo and Fey pseudo-avatars like Thunderbird? It's been stated that Fey is not a true Avatar, I think by Lodgeman. Tennyo's manifestation attracted the attention of the Destroyer.
And he got Fey's vulnerabilities when he absorbed her last time. His synthetic clothes burned him and he started hearing all life around him. It took him out for a few seconds before he cast a spell to shield himself from it all while his new Regen took care of the allergies.
So Jade's cold iron trick would probably work pretty well or at least distract him long enough that the others can get at him.
And the BIT lock only has to last for as long as the battle does, which probably won't take four hours.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61425 is a reply to message #61408 ] |
Tue, 10 July 2012 18:24 |
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| grover wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 20:12 |
I don't know if he could get anything from Jinn or not. Both Fey and Tennyo are Avatars
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They may or may not be something similar to avatars. This is unclear.
| grover wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 20:12 | so he might be able to capture her. I think to get Jades powers he would have copy her.
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Neither has the capability to capture spirits, so no, not gonna happen.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61442 is a reply to message #61425 ] |
Tue, 10 July 2012 21:29 |
guilherme.kinni
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| Sojiro wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 18:24 | | grover wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 20:12 |
I don't know if he could get anything from Jinn or not. Both Fey and Tennyo are Avatars
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They may or may not be something similar to avatars. This is unclear.
| grover wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 20:12 | so he might be able to capture her. I think to get Jades powers he would have copy her.
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Neither has the capability to capture spirits, so no, not gonna happen.
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I'm sure I read somewhere that Tennyo is(or was, before being bonded with the Star Stalker) a high level Channeler. Maybe the crash took it down. But a thing that's certain is that she can't get spirits like an avatar, as seen when Jade cast into her in Jade 9.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61443 is a reply to message #61425 ] |
Tue, 10 July 2012 21:35 |
TheEyes
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| Sojiro wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 18:24 | | grover wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 20:12 |
I don't know if he could get anything from Jinn or not. Both Fey and Tennyo are Avatars
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They may or may not be something similar to avatars. This is unclear.
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I'm pretty sure that neither one is an Avatar. Nikki is no more likely to be an Avatar than any of the New Olympians are. She is in fact a reincarnation of Aunghadhail, not just an Avatar channeling her power. And yes, there is a difference: Cirque I'm pretty sure was an Avatar channeling Aunghadhail's spirit, and there are important differences between her and Nikki, in particular the part where Aunghadhail's spirit had a separate existence from Cirque, but with Nikki they are merging into a single being.
Billie is no longer a mutant at all, let alone an Avatar. At one point Billy was an Omni-Channeler, which is most likely some sort of Avatar subclass, but Billy-the-mutant effectively doesn't exist anymore so there's no way Mimeo would get an Avatar trait off of her.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61454 is a reply to message #61410 ] |
Wed, 11 July 2012 04:13 |
Niknokitueu
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| GinnCaster5 wrote on Tue, 10 July 2012 19:47 | Wait, where did Jade take out Hank?
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Latest episode of Ayla and the Mad Scientist. Kitty Compact used a knockout gas to take down an entranced Lancer before Malificent Dark Fey could use him against TK.
It did help that Hank was distracted at the time, but his TK was almost certainly up, so it still counts. Under normal circumstances Lancer can hold his breath and/or move out of the gas cloud, but when it boils down to it, that knock-out still counts.
Have Fun!
Niknokitueu
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61456 is a reply to message #61443 ] |
Wed, 11 July 2012 06:18 |
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Sojiro
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| TheEyes wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:35 | I'm pretty sure that neither one is an Avatar. Nikki is no more likely to be an Avatar than any of the New Olympians are.
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Then she may very well be an avatar, since that's perfectly possible that this is in part what the New Olympians are.
If she is an avatar, she's an unusual sort, at the very least. It doesn't mean that the component of her power that let her house the spirit of Aunghadhail and draw power from her is not avatar-like in any way. It may be a very special type fated from birth to fit only a very specific spirit, for example.
| TheEyes wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:35 | She is in fact a reincarnation of Aunghadhail, not just an Avatar channeling her power.
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She can be both.
Nikki Reilly is a reincarnation of Aunghadhail and she houses the spirit/power of the late Queen of the West. She might be doing the latter due to a rare variant of the avatar power.
| TheEyes wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:35 | And yes, there is a difference: Cirque I'm pretty sure was an Avatar channeling Aunghadhail's spirit, and there are important differences between her and Nikki, in particular the part where Aunghadhail's spirit had a separate existence from Cirque, but with Nikki they are merging into a single being.
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First, Cirque was an unusual sort of Avatar, just like the rest of the Mystic Six (maybe even more so). Secondly, the difference can be due to Nikki's soul being the reincarnation of the spirit she is housing and ancient spells rather than due to her not being an avatar. Thirdly, she may be a different variant of avatar which has this effect.
The differences between them is not sufficient to conclude that Fey cannot be any sort of avatar at all.
| TheEyes wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:35 | Billie is no longer a mutant at all, let alone an Avatar.
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This is untrue.
Billie still has mutant powers that clearly register as mutant to the appropriate detectors and can be suppressed by mutant powers suppressors that are powerful enough.
She also seems to have additional powers on top of that.
How human/mutant Billie count as now is a matter of debate, but "not at all" is a point that's very hard to argue given the evidence we have.
| TheEyes wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:35 | At one point Billy was an Omni-Channeler, which is most likely some sort of Avatar subclass
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Not really. They have similarities in that they use spirits, but channeler do things that are completely impossible to avatars (use powers from spirits outside of them) while they are unable to trap spirits the way avatars do. Those are pretty distinct sorts of power.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61457 is a reply to message #61442 ] |
Wed, 11 July 2012 06:18 |
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Sojiro
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| guilherme.kinni wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:29 | I'm sure I read somewhere that Tennyo is(or was, before being bonded with the Star Stalker) a high level Channeler.
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Billy Willson used to be an omni-channeler at the instant he manifested, yes. What happened to that power afterwards is unclear, but it seems almost certain that it has not been untouched since Tennyo has never demonstrated any capability to use the powers of spirits around her.
| guilherme.kinni wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:29 | Maybe the crash took it down.
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Nah, the Word of God to that effect is still in the Tennyo thread.
| guilherme.kinni wrote on Wed, 11 July 2012 03:29 | But a thing that's certain is that she can't get spirits like an avatar, as seen when Jade cast into her in Jade 9.
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That doesn't really demonstrate anything. We know Tennyo is capable of absorbing Jinn, since she did it when she rescued her from the demon Hekate summoned for Tool's ritual, before casting her out.
The fact that Tennyo was able not to absorb Jinn (which is a very unusual type of spirit) once does not mean that her powers are not avatar-like at all. The Mystique Corp did seem to think that it was very likely. And maybe the avatar-ness is limited to the spirit of the Star Walker.
It's really hard to say for sure with these things.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61492 is a reply to message #60634 ] |
Thu, 12 July 2012 04:00 |
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Officially Billy was a latent Omni-channeler, which is a very rare mutation that as far as I know, the people in the setting have never done more then theorize about, since every omni-channeler has burned out fatally up to this point at manifestation. If I remember correctly, it's supposed to be related to mimics and avatars, but is considered seperate. From what I can remember, Word of God is that he did burn out, and completely lost that power, but the burnout/drug induced calling to the star stalker lead to it finding him, deciding he's a good host and a way out of it's prison, and bonding with him. It has a seeming of normal life, as a mutant, but if you tear that away, you start to see the inhuman weapon of mass destruction that is hiding within.
They appear to be merging, much as Fey is, but we don't know what will remain in the end.
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We don't even know what an Omni-channeler is supposed to be capable of, other then when they activate, they get enough energy instantly to explode.
[Updated on: Thu, 12 July 2012 04:01]
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61496 is a reply to message #61492 ] |
Thu, 12 July 2012 07:03 |
Niknokitueu
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| khade wrote on Thu, 12 July 2012 09:00 | We don't even know what an Omni-channeler is supposed to be capable of, other then when they activate, they get enough energy instantly to explode.
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My guess? They channel everything. Which would be kinda why they blow up on manifesting.
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Niknokitueu
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61506 is a reply to message #61480 ] |
Thu, 12 July 2012 12:32 |
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Sojiro
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| chrisbuyer wrote on Thu, 12 July 2012 04:06 |
Bill Wilson's power was as a mimic
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Actually that was simply presented as the original theory to explained what happened to Bill Wilson. And it happened to be wrong.
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| Re: Mimeographic [message #61569 is a reply to message #61556 ] |
Fri, 13 July 2012 03:57 |
Niknokitueu
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| grover wrote on Fri, 13 July 2012 04:33 | Sorry to have caused such a fuss. I was blindly attempting to guess how Mimeo's powers would treat Jinn and her sisters as well as what possibly what would happen after he'd copied Fey and Tennyo. It has been a very long time since I've read the original stories, and some of the details of their powers are vague.
Personally I see him as a foil for Team Kimba that non-lethal. In that role he'll make them look silly and clumsy, but won't play any other part in the story. He'll attack and fade away. Not even Ayla and all of his resources can find Mimeo, the shape-shifter.
Perhaps one day they will defeat him, perhaps as a graduation excise but I wouldn't count it. That's not his role in the story. That's if I'm reading this right. I could be wrong. 
Grover
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Well, I am guessing here, but
[1] He seems to copy the entire powerset instead of the normal mimic ability of copying powers from the powerset.
When he copied Fey, he got all her magic mojo plus her vulnerabilities. Not revealed whether he had a pocket version of Unga-Bunga in his head (my guess no).
When he copied Tennyo, he could duplicate anything she did. No mention of whether he was able to directly access the StarStalker abilities, or just access those that Billie is curently accessing.
As to Jade, I am expecting him to duplicate himself as a fully-independant roaming TK entity, possibly still having the mimic ability and borrowed powers (hope not either of these two, but you never know).
[2] As a foil, he is way overpowered. Expect him to pop up at very inconvenient times and royally muck up TK before running off to commit a super-powered crime. Leaving the aforementioned mucked-up team to try to survive the already inconvenient situation. This MO fits because he needs them to be 'otherwise occupied' to prevent them from going after him and foiling his criminal scheme.
As to traceability, he must have lots of mystical protection - it is far too easy for Fey to find him otherwise. Circuit breaker has a good chance of tracking him despite his 'off-the-grid' approach to moneylaundering (he could only be tracked down by the fact that he would need to pay for his hotel rooms, which even at the high-end of things is hard). A psychometric could track him by the psychic residue he left in his jail cell. A diviner/dowser could find him if they had ever met him. Fey, unfettered, could probably eventually find him through underworld contacts (very scary woman if she tried), though she would probably be regarded as a supervillain by the time she found him. Phase could do likewise through Tyle & McIntire (sp?). Mimeo is far from untraceable, just effectively untraceable unless you want to spend a lot (an awful lot) of time and money tracking him down.
[3] I agree with you here. Mimeo's role in the story seems to be one of 'TK is not unbeatable', and can be repeatedly applied due to his non-lethal attitude to encounters. If they ever do defeat him, he will no doubt get a 'this isn't over' moment (a 'I'll be back' combined with 'no jail can hold me' boast).
Have Fun!
Niknokitueu
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