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Quick Question [message #58484] Fri, 18 May 2012 04:44 Go to next message
Nocte  is currently offline Nocte
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Do secondary mutations exist in Whateley? I don't mean "required secondary powers" but rather "Additional powers gained upon middle-age"


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Re: Quick Question [message #58487 is a reply to message #58484 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sojiro  is currently offline Sojiro
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I don't remember ever seeing anything that would suggest that this sort of things happen. Actually the explanation on how power tends to plateau unless an external event sends them on a power curve seems to imply otherwise.
But I do not think that was ever explicitly and specifically called out as impossible.
Re: Quick Question [message #58488 is a reply to message #58484 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 05:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But finish growth will increase the upper ends of some powers.
Re: Quick Question [message #58492 is a reply to message #58484 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, sometimes powers will be changed/upgraded in a burnout...


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Re: Quick Question [message #58494 is a reply to message #58484 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some mutants might develop new applications, or tricks, that were previously unknown. eg, flash learning to vibrate fast enough to become intangible, simulating half a density-warping power.

Don't know if that answers your question. Otherwise, yeah, I think a burnout is the only thing that would regularly change your powers, except in really weird cases.


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Re: Quick Question [message #58495 is a reply to message #58484 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As pure mutation the only ways are the ones described by Mikisha, however there's nothing preventing a mutant from having an Origin event or becoming a dynahost.
Re: Quick Question [message #58499 is a reply to message #58484 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikisha  is currently offline mikisha
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Oh yeah, origin events. Awesome point. Imagine the possibilities!
Avatars, too, might be able to hoover up some more spirits.

One non-mutant exception would be bionically-emulated powers, new tricks only an upgrade away!


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Re: Quick Question [message #58563 is a reply to message #58495 ] Sun, 20 May 2012 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nicky82 wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 00:37
As pure mutation the only ways are the ones described by Mikisha, however there's nothing preventing a mutant from having an Origin event or becoming a dynahost.
Well, we don't know the relationship between origins and mutations in this setting. Can mutants undergo an origin event in times of intense stress, or do they just burn out? (...or is there even a difference?) Does an origin empowerment involve a forced activation of a latent metagene complex, or something else entirely?



As for mutants and dynahosts, keep an eye on Loose Cannons to see if suspicions that Evan Ramsey is a mutant dynahost are confirmed.
Re: Quick Question [message #58708 is a reply to message #58484 ] Mon, 21 May 2012 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Generally, any event that would normally be traumatic enough to trigger some sort of origin event; would also be likely to result in a manifestation of mutant abilities or burnout conditions for said abilities. But that's generalizing. There are circumstances by which mutants can also gain powers from something outside their own genetics... that would make them more than 'just' a mutant. It's a small subset of an already small set... but they exist.


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Re: Quick Question [message #58724 is a reply to message #58708 ] Mon, 21 May 2012 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kristin Darken wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 00:53
There are circumstances by which mutants can also gain powers from something outside their own genetics... that would make them more than 'just' a mutant. It's a small subset of an already small set... but they exist.

Case in point : Compiler, Delta Spike, Jobe and Generator.

[Updated on: Mon, 21 May 2012 21:52]

Re: Quick Question [message #58729 is a reply to message #58708 ] Tue, 22 May 2012 01:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Kristin Darken wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 15:53
Generally, any event that would normally be traumatic enough to trigger some sort of origin event; would also be likely to result in a manifestation of mutant abilities or burnout conditions for said abilities. But that's generalizing. There are circumstances by which mutants can also gain powers from something outside their own genetics... that would make them more than 'just' a mutant. It's a small subset of an already small set... but they exist.


And then, there's the 'surprise' factor. Sometimes a mutant slips through the cracks, doesn't realize he or she can, say, manifest hideous armor... And then something really stressful happens, and presto! The *appearance* of an origin event which is really just the moment when the mutant powers get exposed.

You'd need something like the powers testing facility at Whateley (or at ARC or at the Amazing 3's building or...) to be able to properly tell the difference. Never believe what those news shows claim about it. "And now we're going to go over to our panel of D-list celebrities for commentary!"

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Re: Quick Question [message #58754 is a reply to message #58563 ] Tue, 22 May 2012 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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greyman wrote on Sun, 20 May 2012 12:04
As for mutants and dynahosts, keep an eye on Loose Cannons to see if suspicions that Evan Ramsey is a mutant dynahost are confirmed.


Erm, surely all the Loose Cannons are mutant dynahosts?

Loose Cannons 1
[Dr. Pygmalion] "constructed this device," Mister Bland indicated this big thing that looked like a prop from an old Star Trek episode, "which combined activating nascent mutant traits with merging the proto-dynamorphs into the subject."
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"First, you will undergo the transformation process. If you survive, a proto-dynamorph will be integrated into your body. Please, TRY to survive; we only have so many proto-dynamorphs, we can't rely on getting any more, and recovering them is very troublesome."



"Activating nascent mutant traits" sounds very much as though all of them have the metagene, and the first stage of the process was to activate it before integrating the proto-dynamorphs.

Anyway, further discussion on this particular issue should really be taken up in the Loose Cannons thread.
Re: Quick Question [message #58782 is a reply to message #58484 ] Tue, 22 May 2012 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But who's to say they are telling the truth on that?
Re: Quick Question [message #58787 is a reply to message #58484 ] Tue, 22 May 2012 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello everyone if where doing quick questions then here's one for you.

Can the child of two mutants give birth to a child and it already have powers?

(Ex: two telepathic parent have a child and its born with empathic abilities from the word jump.)

If so then would the child still have the potential to get another power or to change powers at puberty?

(Ex: empathic child turns 13 and suddenly starts walking thought walls.)

Not sure if these are quick but they are interesting question to me at least.


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Re: Quick Question [message #58790 is a reply to message #58484 ] Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
khade  is currently offline khade
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I don't think this really answers the question, but Doc had her machine empathy thing from a very young age, possibly from birth, and didn't activate her meta gene until 2006.
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