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| Field Guide to the Cthulhu Mythos [message #14299] |
Sun, 24 August 2008 02:07  |
 Belgarion213
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Very nice. I've been following your guide since it was posted here but I thought I should post after today's addition at one of the things that basically had me pounding my head against the wall. That is that we finally got a look at the plot of Michael Waite's book, the first scriptures of Keillith.
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| Re: Field Guide to the Cthulhu Mythos [message #14307 is a reply to message #14299 ] |
Sun, 24 August 2008 10:00  |
storyreader2005
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With authors like Renae, J.G., Diane, and Dr. Bender it was practically a given that "Incongruity" would be considered a| Quote of a quote about Incongruity |
'mind screw'
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| Re: Field Guide to the Cthulhu Mythos [message #16302 is a reply to message #14299 ] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 02:50 |
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Dr. Bender
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No, they are not.
The Great Race of Yith are, in reality, time traveling bodiless sentiences. In the past, they possessed lifeforms that were giant and conical with several tentacles growing from the top (one a 'sensor' platform, the other two manipulators). In the future, they possess a race of big insects.
The Elder Things are barrel-shaped with starfish-like heads and long, slender, 'branches' for arms and legs.
I can see how the two races could be easily confused. The 'Elder Things' only really appear in 'At the Mountains of Madness' in which some Elder Things that were once held in stasis explore an old Yithian city in the Antarctic. They come to a nasty end after encountering a Shoggoth along with the vast majority of the human expedition that followed them.
LuLou: Sara doesn't have all of these in her room. The Al Azif, in particular, is exceedingly rare. Heck, the Necronomicon is hard enough to get a hold of. Most are held in secret by the cults of Cthulhu (as passed on to them from the Deep Ones) or Yog-Sothoth (mostly composed of sorcerers who have need of large collections of such material and would not part with these books without dying first). In the Whateley Universe, even more of these books are either destroyed outright or quarantined in places like the ARC Black section or the Library of the Inquisition.
Most of Sara's collection would be borrowed from Gothmog's library. She probably has a copy of the Black Book, lesser texts and maybe some fragments for more powerful tomes but the real deal is currently beyond her scope.
The statement in my signature is false.
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| Re: Field Guide to the Cthulhu Mythos [message #16334 is a reply to message #16302 ] |
Sun, 09 November 2008 15:25 |
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Bookworm
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And a couple of copies of the Book of Kellith! - Signed by Michael Waite 
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| Tiers of demons, how do they fit in? [message #34785 is a reply to message #14299 ] |
Mon, 06 April 2009 10:58 |
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Rabiata
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In some of the stories, members of Team Kimba run into demons that are classified by a "Tier":
In "Ayla and the Grinch", Phase gets to fight BKCRMWDJVG, who is labeled as a Tier 3 demon.
In "Parents Day", Gothmog warns Sara about Tennyo, while mentioning a second tier demon that vanished at Whateley (presumably the one destroyed by Tennyo in Jade 6).
So how do those Tiers fit into the Mythos Hierarchy, and which one is in general more powerful? In other words, do we go from Tier 1 baby demon to Tier 10 super-demon or vice versa?
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| Re: Tiers of demons, how do they fit in? [message #34787 is a reply to message #34785 ] |
Mon, 06 April 2009 11:03 |
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Anvildude
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I think it's sort of like with Spirits. Tier 1 is the little gremlins and lesser demons, imps, sprites, little knots of infernal energy that cause mayhem and chaos and aren't too stable. Tier 2 are the 'demons' that most people think of (though a bit more mind bending) They're guided knots of infernal energy, with a consiousness and a heriarchy, tending to be more powerful than tier 1, and as you ascend their internal ranks, more powerful in relation to one another. Tier three would probably be the archfiends, the demons that aren't just conscious knots of energy, but which have a mythos attatched to them, and are able to draw power from outside them, (such as from worshipers or those who fear them.) Satan might be of this level.
That's just my take on it, though. It's probably way different.
It's a sad thing when your paraphrase is longer than the original quote.
Survivor of the Great Crash of 2011
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| Re: Tiers of demons, how do they fit in? [message #34815 is a reply to message #34787 ] |
Mon, 06 April 2009 14:01 |
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Faraway
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IIRC for any entity to be stable a source of power (usually a sentient being that processes mana naturally unconciously - human qualifies) is required. However, my take is that IF there are only 3 tiers then tier 1 would be a small expendable minion, tier 2 - an independent stable entity, and tier 3 is a colossal entity that has a good chunk of its personal spacetime in posession, can summon tier 1 minions, and is usually unable to completely manifest itself outside its personal Reality Marble. The latter can be achieved by some rites (virginal sacrifices, for instance, like that Name To Run Away From Really Fast).
If there are more tiers than that... Then it's a power level for already manifested entity or its part, going from 1 to Say What!
Never mind, I'm just a guy.
Eldritch: “Details, details, no pokey the cranky bitch.”
Bladedancer: “But Hekate’s not here!”
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| Re: Tiers of demons, how do they fit in? [message #34818 is a reply to message #34785 ] |
Mon, 06 April 2009 14:09 |
XaltatunOfAcheron
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| Rabiata wrote on Mon, 06 April 2009 08:58 |
In "Parents Day", Gothmog warns Sara about Tennyo, while mentioning a second tier demon that vanished at Whateley (presumably the one destroyed by Tennyo in Jade 6).
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Well, she didn't really kill it.
| Jade 6 |
To say that Tennyo was enraged would be overstating the case. She'd barely had enough time to work up a mild anger, but all of that feeling had been focused on the red thing at the end of the tunnel. Now that she'd pulled it through and into her clawed hand, it didn't seem like such a big deal. She felt Jinn come through, too, like a rabbit rushing for its hole. There was a feeling that spun around and around in her chest, like a pet racing around in happy reunion.
Billie realized that she was clutching her roommate hard enough to draw blood. She released the unconscious girl, watching her cuts and bruises heal, even as she fell back to the bed. She still held one hand clutched, as if holding an invisible ball. A tangle of – something – stormed and raged inside an invisible sphere.
"What the heck is that?" Shroud asked in wonder, apparently staring at Billie's clutching hand.
"What does it look like?" Billie wasn't sure herself.
"Like – like a ball of yarn, only made out of red laser light. And it's all spinning and twisting. Isn't that what you see?"
"Not exactly." Billie saw sparks and patterns, tracings and designs. If she looked closely, there were more than three dimensions to it, vastly more, and the sight of it hurt her head. For a moment, she thought she saw a way to reach down those dimensions to where it really lay. Instead, she decided to squeeze away the part that was close to her. There was a way to do it – her hand crushed closed, and it was gone. The residue wasn't physical, or even more than partially visible, but as she absently licked her fingers off, she felt as filled as she'd been after Thanksgiving dinner.
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She put a lot of hurt on it. And she didn't use ketchup, either.
Xaltatun
Oxymoron: Jumbo Shrimp
Impossible: Sustainable Growth
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| Re: Tiers of demons, how do they fit in? [message #34861 is a reply to message #34818 ] |
Mon, 06 April 2009 18:07 |
A. Lurker
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| XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Mon, 06 April 2009 20:09 |
| Rabiata wrote on Mon, 06 April 2009 08:58 |
In "Parents Day", Gothmog warns Sara about Tennyo, while mentioning a second tier demon that vanished at Whateley (presumably the one destroyed by Tennyo in Jade 6).
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Well, she didn't really kill it.
*quote snipped*
She put a lot of hurt on it. And she didn't use ketchup, either.
Xaltatun
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Well, in 'Parents' Day' Gothmog mentions that there's no trace left of the demon in question on any plane. So either Tennyo did destroy it or it's hiding really, really, really well...to the point where even other demons can't easily find it anymore.
Anyway, demonic tiers...it occurs to me that Gothmog may have offhandedly referred to some properly demonic ranking system, which then may or may not actually coincide with such categories as are being (tentatively) used by mere humans. In fact, since it's a big universe compared to a small planet Earth, I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that not all demons use the same classifications for themselves and each other, either.
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| Re: Tiers of demons, how do they fit in? [message #56613 is a reply to message #34818 ] |
Wed, 11 April 2012 20:31 |
GinnCaster5
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| Jade 6 |
The residue wasn't physical, or even more than partially visible, but as she absently licked her fingers off, she felt as filled as she'd been after Thanksgiving dinner.
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I'd say that means she ATE it, effectively giving it over to the Star Stalker to eat. Like Dr. Bender said, the Destroyer was made to eat GOOs, and according to the story, apparently all other demons as well.
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