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| Re: Toys that go boom. [message #52147 is a reply to message #40503 ] |
Sat, 21 January 2012 17:25   |
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 mittfh
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Thinking back to JG's list earlier of possible weaponry options and what I remember of Caitlin from the stories, she's far more likely to use option (4) - ordinary weapons - than anything more sophisticated. Given her sparking aura, she'd probably also stay away from anything that could potentially blow up before reaching its target.
However, on the gadgeteer weapons front, while she wouldn't carry anything that had been untested or only tested a few times, if there was a gadgeteer weapon (note: NOT devisor weapon - they're generally unreliable by definition) that used easily obtainable ammo and was proven to be consistently reliable across hundreds of firings, she may consider adding it to her arsenal if it does something ordinary weapons can't.
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| Re: Toys that go boom. [message #52189 is a reply to message #40854 ] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 11:01 |
chrisbuyer
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| Sir Lee wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 11:49 | | Nicky82 wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 07:43 | Take the cannon of an A-10, slap a custom AEGIS loader on it and some serious recoil compensation, Thubanize the whole to fit an assault rifle sized frame and you have an HELL of machinegun.
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I wonder how conservation of momentum (or, indeed, energy) applies on Thubanized guns fired from inside a Bag of Holding:
- Would the recoil be transmitted in full to the holder of the Bag of Holding that holds that GAU-8? If so, it invalidates the idea of using it as a personal weapon.
- Does the bullet keep the speed on leaving the warp field, or will it slow down significantly at the interface? If it slows down, the whole idea of firing from inside the warp field is pointless.
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Upon re-reading this post it occurred to me that if the item leaving the field slowed down, it would make climbing out of one very difficult if not impossible. So the cigarette case sized box that held Jade's faction 3 alter-ego, Lazuli would have been extremely difficult to get out of, but she just climbed out as if there were no problem. Had there been a "stickyness" or difficulty getting out, surely she would have mentioned it (and please don't get surly, LOL).
Chris in CA
Chris in CA
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| Re: Toys that go boom. [message #52195 is a reply to message #52191 ] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 12:09 |
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Cockle
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A pea at 10 miles/sec actually has about the same kinetic energy as that plastic slug, (assuming no dumb-ass errors in my arithmetic they both come out at a shade under 30kJ). So definitely not something you'd want to be hit by but it's not going to be vapourising anyone.
The material the missile is made from is probably significant. A pea is quite squidgy, (if fresh) or friable if dry so it's probably not going to do as much damage as a tougher object, which can stand up to the impact and penetrate the target.
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| Re: Toys that go boom. [message #52206 is a reply to message #52195 ] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 14:02 |
amratner
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| Cockle wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 12:09 | A pea at 10 miles/sec actually has about the same kinetic energy as that plastic slug, (assuming no dumb-ass errors in my arithmetic they both come out at a shade under 30kJ). So definitely not something you'd want to be hit by but it's not going to be vapourising anyone.
The material the missile is made from is probably significant. A pea is quite squidgy, (if fresh) or friable if dry so it's probably not going to do as much damage as a tougher object, which can stand up to the impact and penetrate the target.
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Rough rule of thumb: any object travelling at 3 km.sec has kinetic energy approximately equal to the object's mass of TNT.
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| Re: Toys that go boom. [message #52208 is a reply to message #52206 ] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 14:15 |
MirrorField
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| amratner wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 21:02 |
Rough rule of thumb: any object travelling at 3 km.sec has kinetic energy approximately equal to the object's mass of TNT.
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Another rough rule of thumb: Object traveling at .75c has kinetic energy approximately equalling the object's mass in antimatter.
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| Re: Toys that go boom. [message #52766 is a reply to message #52206 ] |
Tue, 31 January 2012 21:41 |
chrisbuyer
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| amratner wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 11:02 | | Cockle wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 12:09 | A pea at 10 miles/sec actually has about the same kinetic energy as that plastic slug, (assuming no dumb-ass errors in my arithmetic they both come out at a shade under 30kJ). So definitely not something you'd want to be hit by but it's not going to be vapourising anyone.
The material the missile is made from is probably significant. A pea is quite squidgy, (if fresh) or friable if dry so it's probably not going to do as much damage as a tougher object, which can stand up to the impact and penetrate the target.
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Rough rule of thumb: any object travelling at 3 km.sec has kinetic energy approximately equal to the object's mass of TNT.
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Interesting. 3 km/sec is roughly 3.5 times the muzzle velocity of a 150 grain bullet fired from a 30.06 rifle. Not nearly as fast as I was thinking. 2800 feet per second is roughly 1/2 a mile per second, which is about 7/8 of a Kilometer per second. I think that "pea" is going to vaporize regardless of whether it's dry or fresh and your chest will be filled with incandescent vapor. OUCH! Well, maybe not "filled" but it will hurt a LOT! A regenerater should survive just fine.
[Updated on: Tue, 31 January 2012 21:43]
Chris in CA
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