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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52414 is a reply to message #52393 ] |
Wed, 25 January 2012 16:45   |
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darthdavid Messages: 27 Registered: January 2012 |
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I've been doing a bit of research and finalizing a few things (both for the crossover and Whateley aspects of the story) and I should be ready to actually start writing later today. Expect another snippet tonight or tomorrow.
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52426 is a reply to message #52424 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 00:29   |
Rathmun Messages: 91 Registered: October 2011 |
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| darthdavid wrote on Wed, 25 January 2012 23:42 | First part of Chapter 1 is up, the crossover reveals itself. I've not got a beta and I haven't exactly been super thorough in my proof-reading tonight, so if you spot any errors or things that could be improved please let me know. Thanks for reading!
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I suspected as much. Really, "Sinking Sun's Light," "filled with liquid sunlight," Warmth upon the brow.
I really really hope you find a way to do this crossover justice without turning either the Whateley cast or a Twilight Caste into punks. (for those unfamilliar with Exalted, the Solars were the greatest of a group of living weapons created to kill things like Starstalker, only those things were also effectively duplicators.)
As a Twilight Caste, she'd probably be somewhere around a G8/Dev8/Wiz8/En?/Ex? along with a host of other potential shenanigans. At least, she will once she gets some proper experience.
Good luck and best wishes to your attempt.
[Updated on: Thu, 26 January 2012 00:36]
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52433 is a reply to message #52426 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 03:37   |
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mrudat Messages: 190 Registered: May 2011 Location: Canberra, Australia |
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I suspect that, in the Whateley Universe, an exalted would be (from what little I understand of the system from third hand information), a Paladin of whichever power exalted them.
Without bothering to go check, I believe a Paladin is more-or-less an Avatar playing host to a subset of a entity too powerful for them (or any single Avatar) to hold. I suspect that there is probably some upper limit to how much power can be infused into any particular avatar, and I'd imagine that an Exalted would exceed the limits of even the most powerful of avatars, thus, limiting the shiny new character's powers to merely game-breaking, rather than world-ending. =)
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52436 is a reply to message #52433 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 04:08   |
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darthdavid Messages: 27 Registered: January 2012 |
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| mrudat wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 03:37 | I suspect that, in the Whateley Universe, an exalted would be (from what little I understand of the system from third hand information), a Paladin of whichever power exalted them.
Without bothering to go check, I believe a Paladin is more-or-less an Avatar playing host to a subset of a entity too powerful for them (or any single Avatar) to hold. I suspect that there is probably some upper limit to how much power can be infused into any particular avatar, and I'd imagine that an Exalted would exceed the limits of even the most powerful of avatars, thus, limiting the shiny new character's powers to merely game-breaking, rather than world-ending. =)
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Not quite the same deal but a similar idea, it might even work along those lines if an Avatar Exalted or otherwise got ahold of an exaltation.
Except our intrepid heroine is neither a mutant nor from a world where they even exist, so while she probably will end up classed as a Pseudo-Avatar/Paladin (if only so they have a box they can tick on any relevant paperwork) she's still, technically speaking, more baseline than a baseline as it were (coming from a genepool entirely lacking the metagene). And while she does have the potential to become a real game-breaker it won't be any time soon. The real limiting here factor is going to be time. Solar Exalted have natural lifespans of 2000-3000 years and can live for 5000-7000 years with the right charm. It's gonna take decades of experience and training for her to come into the majority of her power.
A freshly exalted Solar, especially one who's charmset isn't combat focused is powerful, but hardly game breaking. And of course there's always the golden rule of storytelling: the more powerful your protagonist is the more powerful the forces arrayed against them need to be to make an interesting story.
[Updated on: Thu, 26 January 2012 04:10]
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52444 is a reply to message #52436 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 11:42   |
Rathmun Messages: 91 Registered: October 2011 |
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| darthdavid wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 04:08 |
Except our intrepid heroine is neither a mutant nor from a world where they even exist, so while she probably will end up classed as a Pseudo-Avatar/Paladin (if only so they have a box they can tick on any relevant paperwork) she's still, technically speaking, more baseline than a baseline as it were (coming from a genepool entirely lacking the metagene). And while she does have the potential to become a real game-breaker it won't be any time soon. The real limiting here factor is going to be time. Solar Exalted have natural lifespans of 2000-3000 years and can live for 5000-7000 years with the right charm. It's gonna take decades of experience and training for her to come into the majority of her power.
A freshly exalted Solar, especially one who's charmset isn't combat focused is powerful, but hardly game breaking. And of course there's always the golden rule of storytelling: the more powerful your protagonist is the more powerful the forces arrayed against them need to be to make an interesting story.
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IIRC, the first Solar to ever die of old age in the age of wonders died at fourteen thousand years old. Furthermore, there's no reason for a Solar to ever die of old age given the magics they have available.
Besides, even if she did, without Lytek around, there's no one to trim her memories off the shard, so she gets to have serial reincarnation style immortality too.
Also, a Solar who just wanders off to go meditate on a mountain top (not likely) still only takes a century to become world ending.
Oh, and a starting Solar in a world without Exalts is actually even more frightening if they aren't combat focused. Social and/or crafting and/or shaping charms have a lot more potential to be world-breaking.
Odd thought, apply OOB or WCT to someone with GSD or an undesirable BIT. (finding a wyld zone for WCT might be the hard part.)
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52445 is a reply to message #52393 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 12:01   |
thejackle123 Messages: 41 Registered: August 2011 |
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And speaking of gamebrakers, in the whateley-verse, short of making anyone God, it's nigh impossible. I mean if someone got REALY powerfull, Cuthulu would probably wake up and then you've got some real problems.
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52446 is a reply to message #52445 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 12:07   |
Rathmun Messages: 91 Registered: October 2011 |
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| thejackle123 wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 12:01 | And speaking of gamebrakers, in the whateley-verse, short of making anyone God, it's nigh impossible. I mean if someone got REALY powerfull, Cuthulu would probably wake up and then you've got some real problems.
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If Cthulu woke up the the Whateley canon setting, Tennyo would probably just eat him. Then you'd have to deal with a potentially insane Tennyo though, which is probably worse.
It's also not impossible to take down a solar with sheer weight of numbers (See: Usurpation). It's just horrifically expensive.
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52455 is a reply to message #52393 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 15:21   |
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darthdavid Messages: 27 Registered: January 2012 |
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My Windows install (and possibly one of my hard drives) seems to have committed seppuku so there might be a bit of a delay on the next snippet while I get things sorted.
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| Re: The Sinking Sun's Light [message #52456 is a reply to message #52455 ] |
Thu, 26 January 2012 15:26   |
Rathmun Messages: 91 Registered: October 2011 |
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| darthdavid wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 15:21 | My Windows install (and possibly one of my hard drives) seems to have committed seppuku so there might be a bit of a delay on the next snippet while I get things sorted.
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Well damn. Are you anywhere near Ft Collins? I might be able to help.
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