nekoali wrote on Mon, 03 September 2012 14:15

ummm. that was kind of the point of the post you quoted. Breaking up the rock is only one part of mining/tunneling. The rock doesn't take up any less space, it's just in smaller chunks. You have to clear out the rubble, shore up the tunnel so it doesn't collapse, etc... I would also argue that mining is not the same as attacking something...

And "ummm" I said he had Profession: Miner as well. At its base, hitting a rock with a pick is attacking it. Knowing the proper way to clear the rubble and shore up the tunnel, etc is where Profession: Miner comes into play. Backed up with a judicious bit of magic to help clear the rocks (Unseen servant, summoned critters, etc.) you can indeed tunnel far faster than any mundane miner. It only came up a couple of times, but it was handy.

Besides, being an adventurer means you usually aren't called upon to do a lot of actual tunneling, and there are rules for attacking and destroying objects such as walls, doors, and most other such impediments. Adamantine weapons+power attack allows you to make short work of 99% of them, especially at higher levels. Which leads to such things as adamantine reinforced doors and walls reinforced with permanent wall of force spells to stop such shenanigans.

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WarClub wrote on Sun, 02 September 2012 05:00

Fey. Stupid high charisma, and 'just knows' how to do her magic. I'm calling sorcerer. I know that that doesn't accurately reflect her spell selection, but she's not bookish enough to be a wizard.

Fey is absolutely wizard, just with those feats that let her permanently memorize spells without access to spellbooks. As a reincarnation of an ancient Epic-level Elven wizard with Divine Ranks, she will eventually become the same, but that will take awhile.
(Edit): No, no, I've got it: Fey isn't a wizard at all; she's a cleric! Well, sort of an arcane cleric anyway. She is, in fact, a cleric whose source of power is in fact her own soul-splice (Aunghadhail), who is feeding her spells and in turn drawing power from the ley lines around her. As Fey advances she will subsume Aunghadhail into herself and become a divine being in her own right.

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Chaka. You gotta ask? Monk. Maybe wizard/monk, but mostly monk.

Definitely, and with some sort of variant rule that lets her be Chaotic Good. I can't wait for Chaka to learn Abundant Step.

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Generator. Wizard. One that dropped evocation in favor of specializing in either conjuration or illusion, depending on how you view her playstyle. She's not about raw damage, she's about finesse.

I'm thinking psion, with an emphasis on metacreativity. She has far too much flexibility, and, frankly, not enough power, to be a Vancian wizard.

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Phase. This is the tough one. The closest I can come is Duskblade out of PHB II. Or maybe a gish build of some kind.

Phase started out as an Aristocrat NPC, but then picked up a crazy level-adjustment template that allows him to switch between Ghost and some sort of diamond golem, which he is buying off while taking levels as monk/wizard/Arcane Fist.

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Tennyo - Red dragon. Really old red dragon. Nothing PC can dish out close combat, ranged energy, and take hits like tennyo can

I'd go with super-Epic level Warlock, who managed to pick up some divine ranks somewhere. She's got a limited range of incredibly powerful at-will powers; that screams Warlock to me. Old red dragons mostly get their power from having sorcerer levels proportional to the HD, that and having Colossal size bonuses. Tennyo doesn't have either of those.

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On the one hand, D&D Next just came out; apparently, Wizards of the Coast actually started listening to their customers, for once.

Or maybe they just realized that the Hero Clix/BT:DA type games which 4e was largely copying was a bust.

OTOH, D&D is extremely poorly suited for superheroics. Mutants and Masterminds would be a good choice, if a bit restrictive; HERO System (aka Champions) would be better still IMAO, though there's a tendency to nerf just about every non-killing attack and it is hard to make really unique abilities. Just avoid HERO 4e FUZION and you should do all right... hey, has anyone looked at HERO 6e yet, and whether they've shot themselves in the foot again?

GURPS would probably work very well, especially if you crib heavily from the IOU supplement , but it has the opposite problem from HERO of being a bit too punative combat-wise.

OTOH, my favorite game of all (take a lucky guess, Citizen) wouldn't be even a little bit suited for superheroics, unless you wanted to be really silly with it... though I do seem to recall a Code 7 scenario in one of the supplements (the original AP, I think) where a group of Romantics had decided to recreate the Pulp Era, with PSION getting into the act as the supervillians. The Troubleshooter team is assigned to stop all this mayhem which was threatening to bust loose.

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