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| Re: Hank [message #46364 is a reply to message #46360 ] |
Tue, 04 October 2011 19:24   |
 XaltatunOfAcheron
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| CanRock wrote on Tue, 04 October 2011 16:09 | | Nicky82 wrote on Tue, 04 October 2011 14:23 | | Niknokitueu wrote on Mon, 03 October 2011 14:58 | | dpragan wrote on Sun, 02 October 2011 00:25 | I've been wondering why does Hank rebound the Energy Absorbed from his chest (ala Energizer from Power Pack) rather than from his hands,re-channeling them along his PK field, (ala Bishop former of the X-men)
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Heh. I had always thought of it more as Havok of the X-Men. More-or-less guided, but mainly emitted from the chest.
(In my mind's eye, Havok tends to point with both arms at his target, and the beam emits from his entire upper torso. With Hank, I feel it more to be arms wide in an 'Iron Cross' position, chest out. Still, to my eyes the comparison remains true...)
Have Fun!
Niknokitueu
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Maybe it's like Ki, force starts from the belly and is than channaled through the technique being used.... at least, this is my understanding from my brief experience of Judo.
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The human body has 7 major chakra points. The one over the chest is called "Anahata". If i can quote Wikipedia:
Key issues involving Anahata involve complex emotions, compassion, tenderness, unconditional love, equilibrium, rejection and well-being.
I highlighted rejection. It seems like an interesting coincidence. As he rejected the energy that he had absorbed.
Anyways, it seems logical to me that he would emit from one of those points. With training he might learn to blast through his hands.
Lancer should consider himself lucky that he didn't blast through his base chakra. He would be the butt of jokes forever. Lancer power activate. 
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It depends on your occult school. Tibetan Buddhism, for example, has six. Magical Taoism is a completely different system again, and I don't even want to get into the various versions of Shamanism.
Xaltatun
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| Re: Hank [message #46391 is a reply to message #46364 ] |
Wed, 05 October 2011 03:14 |
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| XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Wed, 05 October 2011 02:24 | and I don't even want to get into the various versions of Shamanism.
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... I don't even want to count the various versions of Shamanism that can be found around the world.
Because, that's basically a catch-all category for the various "native" and "primitive" systems rather than the proper name of any one system.
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| Re: Hank [message #63977 is a reply to message #46393 ] |
Fri, 24 August 2012 00:16 |
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warble
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So just wondering, if hank can exert 5T of force with any part of his body; could he, with sufficient training, grip with 5T of force with any part of his body? That would be amusing, seeing someone in a jointlock in the PK field at lancer's lower back or something.
On the other hand. Do you think he could drop something into his field and push it along the field instead of just away? Say dropping a hundred gram ball bearing onto his shoulder and pushing it down his arm to his hand. Or past his hand. So the ball bearing starts with a velocity of zero, a mass of 0.1kg and is accelerated by a force equal to 5T all the way along his arm and across the back of his hand at at a target, lets say from shoulder to fingertip is 1m on Hank, because he's only 14 and the math is easier that way. See also metric tons instead of your imperial silliness.
so the ball bearing is accelerating at 50000m/s^2 from a stop for 1m. the ball is now travelling at ~316m/s which gives hank a muzzle velocity about equal to a decent calibre pistol, except he is firing shots about 20 times heavier.
That should cover our boy for mid range shouldnt it?
Also if hank applies 5T of force to accelerating a 4T boulder (and neglects air friction because im lazy) for a meter it leaves his hand at a speed that equates to 7T of force on whatever it hits. And at that mass it isnt going very fast, if hank were to fly along behind it and keep applying his 5T of force until it reached his top speed, you suddenly have an impact champion couldnt shrug off.
Well, not suddenly, you'd probably need a decoy or something to get the target to stand still that long. Still, thoughts on PK powers!
[Updated on: Fri, 24 August 2012 00:18]
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| Re: Hank [message #63996 is a reply to message #63977 ] |
Fri, 24 August 2012 14:45 |
Niknokitueu
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| warble wrote on Fri, 24 August 2012 05:16 | So just wondering, if hank can exert 5T of force with any part of his body; could he, with sufficient training, grip with 5T of force with any part of his body?
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I don't know, but suspect not.
TK power seems to fall into on of two categories. Contact or range.
Contact TK (which Hank has) affects him and, to a limited extent, anything he touches. It extends a short way out from his body to cover things where he wills it to. From what I believe, it is more like a 'soap bubble of force' around his body. It is 'sticky' where his hands and feet are, and less 'sticky' elsewhere (note that TK bricks can learn to make their field frictionless, which major ups their airspeed, or allows ground-pounders like Thrasher to have a seriously cool method of locomotion).
He can make the field 'sharp' where he has mental logic for it being so, so his paper swords are 'sharp', as are his fingernails (pinching cable to snap it springs to mind).
Ranged TK (which Hank deos not have) is more like a mental grasping hand, not a shield over the body.
There aslo seem to be other speed limits to ranged TKs (possibly power of plot, possibly 'just the way it is'). Shroud flies at a limited speed, and as a kinetic construct, she is effectively a concious 'ranged TK' power (which is why she does not have a TK field protecting her 'body' - she is just 'carrying' her body with her).
So, all in all, Hank could not turn a pebble into a pistol shot by rolling it down his arm. He could, however, flick a pebble at EX-3 speeds. He could even throw a 5 ton boulder (possibly at EX-3 speeds, probably slower due to the way the normal rules of physics 'bend' when mutant powers are involved).
In the end it is up to the authors as to how heavy and fast a boulder Hank can throw, and given how Ayla reacted when Hank punched him (ie at max heavy he got shoved back a few inches IIRC) I wouldn't give much hopes for a fast-moving 5 ton boulder.
Have Fun!
Niknokitueu
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| Re: Hank [message #63999 is a reply to message #63996 ] |
Fri, 24 August 2012 15:51 |
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Sir Lee
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What Niknokitueu said... with a small note:
While generally speaking, Hank can only use his TK field as a sort of "coating" over his body and a few extensions (like clothes, hair and weapons), there is at least one thing he can do that involves directing the field in other ways:
He can hold his paper swords straight.
Now, if those were made of stiff cardboard with a thin paper edge, I wouldn't mention anything. But it's canon that he rolls up those paper swords and puts then in his pockets. They don't have stiffness on their own. Ergo, Hank is somehow supplying the stiffness. So, he *can* do other stuff with his PK field besides directing force outward.
Now, it wouldn't take a lot of force to pull a paper sword straight. So it's possible (even likely) that Hank's ranged TK-like ability are really, really weak -- like "struggling to lift a paperclip" weak. But it's still enough to pull the paper-swords trick.
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| Re: Hank [message #64005 is a reply to message #24677 ] |
Fri, 24 August 2012 17:51 |
sam105
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Without an author we do not know just what Hank can do.
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| Re: Hank [message #64011 is a reply to message #24677 ] |
Fri, 24 August 2012 20:45 |
GinnCaster5
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1) Hank, like pretty much any PK brick, can spread their field over things that they lift, which is why the can lift a car without their hand simply making a hole in the bottom of the car with the car falling around it.
2) I looked and still can't find anything on it that makes sense, so... What in the hootinanny is WKISA?
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| Re: Hank [message #67559 is a reply to message #24677 ] |
Mon, 22 October 2012 15:39 |
khade
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That could also explain how it seems like they can take the max rated weight, from multiple directions at once.
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| Re: Hank [message #67571 is a reply to message #67565 ] |
Mon, 22 October 2012 17:13 |
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Sojiro
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| Black_Hatter wrote on Mon, 22 October 2012 22:38 | On a side note, even if Hank could shoot a 4 ton boulder using his field, he would still be subject to Newton's third. In other words, a 200(?)lb boy pushing a 4 ton object. Which one will be flung away?
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The rock. That's what happens with telekinesis. It really isn't like he's using his muscles or conventional application of force to move this rock.
| Black_Hatter wrote on Mon, 22 October 2012 22:38 | Maybe flight could help?
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It would help an Exemplar superboy, certainly. (so would proper bracing)
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| Re: Hank [message #73739 is a reply to message #24677 ] |
Mon, 04 March 2013 03:40 |
WarClub
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Hank desperately needs to take some of the magic curriculum; Intro to Magic and Spell Recognition, at least. He needs to figure out what magic he can stand in the way of, and what will screw him up; what his field can and can't absorb then redirect.
He also needs something to help his aim. Nikki needs to lay off the computer games and make an artifact or two.
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