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Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36084] Wed, 15 April 2009 10:14 Go to next message
VeryZenn  is currently offline VeryZenn
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I searched for a thread relating to this first and did not find one. If I missed it then if someone could kindly point me there that would be awesome.

I've only just started reading through the stories. Thus far I'm really impressed. The quality here is actually much higher than I am accustomed to when reading on the internet.

I have noticed a few minor (possible) errors in the form of pronoun problems (as in His vs Him rather His vs Hers which I would be more likely to write off as a story element)

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Jared had years of aikido training. All the same, he knew he'd never have the confidence to strike back at his father. He could train all he wanted, but when he faced his father, body and mind both seemed to freeze. Even if, somehow, he had miraculously managed to defend himself, he father would only beat him worse for "cheating" and using "pajama-fighting tricks."


and places where a sentence has pretty obviously been rewritten but not all of the previous version was removed.

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I had to run like mad after my alarm went off. Lucky for me that I didn't have to worry about my hair because there was only had enough time to rinse off and get ready for my early morning flight class. I decided to dress in shirt and jeans since I didn't know exactly what we would be doing.


These are the ones that most leaped to mind. If you don't mind I'd be happy to drop any potential errors I find here. For that matter I'm pretty sure others would be happy to help as well.


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Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36129 is a reply to message #36084 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah yeah, there's already a thread or two on this: http://crystalhall.org/chboards3/index.php?t=msg&th=1397


“People, people!” Jade stood up on her seat, “I am not a nut-job! And the voice in my head agrees with me!”
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36151 is a reply to message #36084 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks. I didn't use the right search terms. Smile
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36166 is a reply to message #36151 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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VeryZenn wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 17:03

Thanks. I didn't use the right search terms. Smile


And then there are the DELIBERATE pronoun problems. Very Happy

Diane


"WHO has deactivated my BEAUTIFUL frogs?"
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36173 is a reply to message #36166 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane Castle wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 22:05

VeryZenn wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 17:03

Thanks. I didn't use the right search terms. Smile


And then there are the DELIBERATE pronoun problems. Very Happy

Diane



Talking about Ayla again?

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Now, I have a friend named Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla,
And I could say that Rufus found a kangaroo
That followed Rufus home
And now that kangaroo belongs
To Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla.

Whew! I could say that,
but I don't have to,
'Cause I've got pronouns,
I can say, "HE found a kangaroo that
followed HIM home and now IT is HIS"

You see, (uh) HE, HIM, and HIS
are pronouns,
Replacing the noun,
Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla,
A very proper noun.
And IT is a pronoun, replacing the noun, kangaroo! (How common!)

Now Rufus has a sister named Rafaella Gabriela Sarsaparilla.
If she found a kangaroo I'd say to you:
"SHE found a kangaroo that followed HER home, and now it is HERS."
But I can't say that...
'Cause SHE found an aardvark
That fell in love with HER, and THEY're so happy.

And my name's Albert Andreas Armadillo.
(No relation to the Sarsaparillas.)
Because of pronouns, I can say:
I wish SHE would find a rhinoceros for ME and WE'd be happy."

You see, a pronoun was made to take the place of a noun,
'Cause saying all those nouns over and over
Can really wear you down!

Now I could tell you Rafaella Gabriela and Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla and Albert Andreas
Armadillo found an aardvark,
a kangaroo, and a rhinoceros. And now that aardvark and that
kangaroo and that rhinoceros belong respectively to Rafaella
Gabriela Sarsaparilla and Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla and Albert
Andreas Armadillo!

Whew! Because of pronouns I can say, in this way:
"WE found THEM and THEY found US and now THEY are OURS
and WE're so happy."

Thank you, pronouns!

You see a pronoun was made to take the place of a noun,
'Cause saying all those nouns over and over
Can really wear you down.

Sometimes, when we take 'em all on the bus
People really raise a fuss.
They start shouting out a lot o' pronouns at us, like
"WHO brought that rhinoceros on this bus?" and
"WHAT made that horrible noise?" and
"WHICH one of them is getting off first?"

WHO, WHAT, and WHICH are special pronouns that can as a question
In a sentence when you do not know the name of the noun,
But I know:
I have MINE, and SHE has HERS,
HE has HIS. Do YOU have YOURS?
THEY love US, and WE love THEM,
WHAT's OURS is THEIRS -
That's how it is with friends,
And pronouns, you are really friends, yeah!

'Cause saying all those nouns over and over
Can really wear you down.


Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36178 is a reply to message #36173 ] Thu, 16 April 2009 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bookworm wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 00:58

Diane Castle wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 22:05

And then there are the DELIBERATE pronoun problems. Very Happy
Talking about Ayla again?

Ayla, of course, but MOSTLY the J-Team.


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
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Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36228 is a reply to message #36084 ] Thu, 16 April 2009 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Problem with the J-team is that once they no longer consider one and all to be "I" it is only a short trip to a genuine multiple-personality disorder as different events of Jade become possessive of their own perceptions.

To be honest it's a small miracle (or mutant physiology) that she hasn't run into this already. I mean it would be rally weird remembering two separate events which happened simultaneously, weirder still would be remembering the SAME event from two separate locations. Remembering the events of 4 to 5 peoples perceptions overlayed temporally should be overwhelming. Order of events starts to break down. The concept of self starts to dissolve. Yikes. Sad

I guess its just a good thing she was built for this or it could get really ugly for her.

~Matt
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36234 is a reply to message #36228 ] Thu, 16 April 2009 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think she posesses a secondary power of having a very keen personal sense of time, so she does not get confused, or something.


Never mind, I'm just a guy.

Eldritch: “Details, details, no pokey the cranky bitch.”
Bladedancer: “But Hekate’s not here!”
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36256 is a reply to message #36178 ] Thu, 16 April 2009 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Lee wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 21:25

Bookworm wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 00:58

Diane Castle wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 22:05

And then there are the DELIBERATE pronoun problems. Very Happy
Talking about Ayla again?

Ayla, of course, but MOSTLY the J-Team.



And Heyoka. There are some other candidates around campus.

Diane


"WHO has deactivated my BEAUTIFUL frogs?"
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #36274 is a reply to message #36256 ] Thu, 16 April 2009 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane Castle wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 15:01

Sir Lee wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 21:25

Bookworm wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 00:58

Diane Castle wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 22:05

And then there are the DELIBERATE pronoun problems. Very Happy
Talking about Ayla again?

Ayla, of course, but MOSTLY the J-Team.



And Heyoka. There are some other candidates around campus.

Diane


Ah, yes, the classic Jimmy Trauger problem.
Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #37607 is a reply to message #36084 ] Mon, 27 April 2009 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I was asked to move my constant typo checking to a different thread. Ok. I'll just come back here. Razz

From "Transfer Students" (This one isn't finished. I need to switch computers and this is the easiest way to transfer what is done already.)


Quote:

But I like to think we saved a life or three in all time of running around roof tops in our underwear.


Did you drop a word in here?


Quote:

Finally he got wrapped up and a complicated reverse, assisted by the guy who was holding Charles on the ground.


Possibly meant: in


Quote:

"You are not going to be seen fighting crime in that out fit, young lady, that's final!"


Probably meant: outfit


Quote:

"I when through about 60 needles each making them. Phoenixfire, yours will allow your fire aura to pass through, as well as allow you to summon your Fire Blade.


Probably meant: went


Quote:

I don't know how the others trips went, but mine was a night mare.


Probably meant: nightmare


Quote:

"Wha...what?" I asked, feeling every more fearful and confused.


Probably meant: ever


Quote:

We...you mother and I decided that it would be best for you to grow up believing you had had a normal delivery as a girl."


Probably meant: your


Quote:

"You'll get it," I told brightly.


Probably meant: "said" OR "told him"


Quote:

One had been especially for secret ID means, where he had generated a small worm hole and anchored both ends of it in the pouch.


I'm not really sure but the sentence is less than smooth. M


Quote:

A number of the signs I could see had the logo of Humans First!

"Since when does Humans First! organize riots in the street?" asked Billie.


Isn't it Humanity First! (*GASP* Unless this is an ultra-violent splinter group! Very Happy )



Quote:

Interesting to say the least; but we weren't talking about mutants, what's normal?


Probably meant: were


Quote:

"But yes, you generally to stick with one statue until you can't think of anything or you concede the best line to the other. Once we get into regulation play, there's a five second time out, but I'm taking it easy on you."


Probably just drop the: to


Quote:

"No only am I a member, I'm also the president!"


Probably meant: Not


Quote:

My thoughts were going a strange cross between a mile a minute considered all the possibilities and ramifications of how comfortable this young man was to me and just the thought of being so comfortable with him on my arm.


I think this one was revised in some fashion but some portion wasn't removed or something. I don't think it reads correctly.


Quote:

I could tell she wasn't happy about it that was for sure.


Should it be: I could tell she wasn't happy about it, that was for sure. (I actually suck with punctuation but I think it needs SOMETHING at that point.)


Quote:

'Othello', or as was usually known as, Andy Dewitt was a striking fellow.


Probably meant: "as he" and cut the second "as"

and there we have it.

~Matt

[Updated on: Mon, 27 April 2009 15:33]

Re: Grammatical Inconsistencies [message #37779 is a reply to message #36084 ] Tue, 28 April 2009 12:23 Go to previous message
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Well. I just finished "Revenge of the Alphas" Likely corrections follow.


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Huh. Didn't find any.

Well done everybody! Very Happy

~Matt


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