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| Re: Helpful thought. [message #31016 is a reply to message #31007 ] |
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 tensai
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| celer wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 13:53 |
 The one thing that annoys me to no end, living on the outskirts of Boston as I do and going in fairly regularly, is this: WHERE ARE OUR GADGETEERS? Boston has Harvard and MIT and the best colleges and universities in the world. Where the heck else would a gadgeteer go if they want to go to where some of the most advanced research in the world is being done? Boston beats most countries for scientific advancements. Now with all the gadgeteers settling down in Boston, you get mutant babies. Mutant babies mean adult mutants who probably go to Whateley. I find it hard to imagine that many people go to be a superhero far away from where they grew up. So how is it that Denver and St.Louis get full teams, and we get a couple of disassociated heroes to combat the children of the night? I love the stories, but Boston deserves more superheroes. I understand if for dramatic reasons there can't be many because the Whateley students need to go into Boston, but could you please give us something more than amoral semi heroes and people who would probably be beaten by your average grunt member?
sincerely,
A Red Sox Flan.
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I agree! The WU needs teams of warring gadgeteer grad students, battling in the steam tunnels and on the streets to determine who has the more prestigious institution!
"It took her some time to accept that with such wings, her soul would never soar--but the fact that she could kick a man's lungs out through his spine was ultimately some small consolation." -ursulav
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| Re: Helpful thought. [message #31799 is a reply to message #31034 ] |
Tue, 17 March 2009 19:11 |
charm
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| celer wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 17:53 |
Where the heck else would a gadgeteer go if they want to go to where some of the most advanced research in the world is being done?
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Can I'll ask a different question.
Why would most gadgeteers or devisors bother going to university?
For Devisors, it would be a waste of time. (Not to mention, the scientific community don't like them.)
For Gadgeteers, it wouldn't be very useful either. Their own powers tell them how to build things.
Therefore, Gadgeteers (once they leave Whateley) could either:
(a) Spend some years at univerity (costing $10k to $40k/year) and at end have a PhD.
(b) Go into industry, and earn 100,000 to 1,000,000 or more per year. (And buy a PhD from a degree mill, or via publications - a couple of universities will substitue publications in respected journals for thesis.)
Given that Gadgeteers tend to be smart, which option do you think most will take?
Mathematics is the language that commands the universe. Science is how you learn it. Engineering is how you speak it.
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| Re: Helpful thought. [message #31818 is a reply to message #31799 ] |
Tue, 17 March 2009 21:25 |
XaltatunOfAcheron
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| charm wrote on Tue, 17 March 2009 17:11 |
| celer wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 17:53 |
Where the heck else would a gadgeteer go if they want to go to where some of the most advanced research in the world is being done?
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Can I'll ask a different question.
Why would most gadgeteers or devisors bother going to university?
For Devisors, it would be a waste of time. (Not to mention, the scientific community don't like them.)
For Gadgeteers, it wouldn't be very useful either. Their own powers tell them how to build things.
Therefore, Gadgeteers (once they leave Whateley) could either:
(a) Spend some years at univerity (costing $10k to $40k/year) and at end have a PhD.
(b) Go into industry, and earn 100,000 to 1,000,000 or more per year. (And buy a PhD from a degree mill, or via publications - a couple of universities will substitue publications in respected journals for thesis.)
Given that Gadgeteers tend to be smart, which option do you think most will take?
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You've got to get your hands dirty somewhere. I suspect you're half right - gadgeteers and devisors with a Whateley degree will probably move right into some slot via contacts at the Job Fair or Science Fair (which we haven't seen yet, but both of them have been mentioned.)
However, I suspect there are a lot of gadgeteers, and some devisors, out there that don't show any other mutant traits, and who don't go to Whateley.
The other piece of that is that getting ahead takes a lot more than just honing your devisor or gadgeteer skills. If you want to spend your life as a techie to when you're old and grey, that's one thing. If you want to climb the ladder to where you've got dozens or hundreds of people working for you, that's another thing. And a Whateley high school degree won't get you into a business school.
Xaltatun
Oxymoron: Jumbo Shrimp
Impossible: Sustainable Growth
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| Re: Helpful thought. [message #31927 is a reply to message #31799 ] |
Wed, 18 March 2009 11:09 |
FAK
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| charm wrote on Tue, 17 March 2009 19:11 |
| celer wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 17:53 |
Where the heck else would a gadgeteer go if they want to go to where some of the most advanced research in the world is being done?
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Can I'll ask a different question.
Why would most gadgeteers or devisors bother going to university?
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Uhhh that's an easy one. MIT (Mutant Institute of Technology)... another story universe perhaps?
FAK
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| Re: Helpful thought. [message #31954 is a reply to message #31818 ] |
Wed, 18 March 2009 14:42 |
charm
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| XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Wed, 18 March 2009 14:25 |
You've got to get your hands dirty somewhere. I suspect you're half right - gadgeteers and devisors with a Whateley degree will probably move right into some slot via contacts at the Job Fair or Science Fair (which we haven't seen yet, but both of them have been mentioned.)
However, I suspect there are a lot of gadgeteers, and some devisors, out there that don't show any other mutant traits, and who don't go to Whateley.
The other piece of that is that getting ahead takes a lot more than just honing your devisor or gadgeteer skills. If you want to spend your life as a techie to when you're old and grey, that's one thing. If you want to climb the ladder to where you've got dozens or hundreds of people working for you, that's another thing. And a Whateley high school degree won't get you into a business school.
Xaltatun
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Low level devisors (with a science/engineering bent) are going to have a lousy time at university. Lots of experiments/equipment that either blow up, fail catastrophically, or produce unrepeatable results. High level devisors are probably going to be recognized quickly.
From what we've seen, most devisors/gadgeteers like building stuff with their own hands. (And main idea seems to be create stuff, patent it, then sell patents to fund building more stuff. Leading a team of people would wouldn't appeal to most of the "builder" style G/Ds. - And their powers aren't suited to it.)
But this does raise some interesting questions.
1. Can you have a Devisor/Gadgeteer that doesn't like building stuff. In which case, how would you know they're a G/D?
2. How many mutants don't go to Whateley? (Well there's the devisor that created Hive.)
Mathematics is the language that commands the universe. Science is how you learn it. Engineering is how you speak it.
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| Re: Helpful thought. [message #32954 is a reply to message #31964 ] |
Tue, 24 March 2009 21:01 |
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nanarinipash
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| Sir Lee wrote on Thu, 19 March 2009 04:23 |
Devisor cook: "Wait, you are saying that you used sugar, molasses and honey in your recipe... and *no* salt at all... so how come it tastes *salty* instead of sweet? It shouldn't be possible!"
Devisor painter: "I like using oil paint for the translucent, iridescent effect that I get... and watercolors for the 3-D holographic highlights..."
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I really like this idea. How come there are so many people who can build crazy gadgets compared to the number of people who can do other laws-of-the-universe-bending things? They're just more visible. The "Devisor" archetype was probably developed early in the history of mutations and ever since it's been basically the only accepted form of 'do the impossible' type mutant ability (the other being the extremely wide category of 'magic'). So what would happen if someone found they could do amazing things with food? A) They go on to be a well-paid chef without ever realizing it could be related to mutation (and no one's checking) or B) They peg themselves as some kind of wizard and branch out into more 'conventional' types of magic (read: develop their own rules for rejecting the universal laws).
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