| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #24439 is a reply to message #24437 ] |
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 Babs
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| tensai wrote |
On a completely off-topic note, this reminds me of Aristoi. Fun book.
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Brilliant, magnificent book.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #24594 is a reply to message #24478 ] |
Mon, 02 February 2009 12:25 |
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Babs
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No, it's probably time for me to catch back up on Williams. I do have The Crown Jewels, which was fun and hillarious. I need to get other books in that series. I can deal with an older, wiser, elder, elf-like race, but when you actually read the description you realize that they aren't elves, they're dogs. And the whole excuse of "the emperor is a closet kleptomaniac, so we had to legalize it," was simply brilliant. Frankly, it reminds me of Alexei Panshin's "Anthony Villiers" stories.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #25074 is a reply to message #24594 ] |
Wed, 04 February 2009 16:46 |
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| Babs wrote on Mon, 02 February 2009 12:25 |
No, it's probably time for me to catch back up on Williams. I do have The Crown Jewels, which was fun and hillarious. I need to get other books in that series. I can deal with an older, wiser, elder, elf-like race, but when you actually read the description you realize that they aren't elves, they're dogs. And the whole excuse of "the emperor is a closet kleptomaniac, so we had to legalize it," was simply brilliant. Frankly, it reminds me of Alexei Panshin's "Anthony Villiers" stories.
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Is Ten Points for Style an omnibus then?
"Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth,
And danced the skies on laughter silvered wings,"
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #25240 is a reply to message #25074 ] |
Thu, 05 February 2009 13:00 |
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Babs
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Yes, it seems to be. It's out of print at the moment, so most of my searches come up blank, but Google's cache seems to indicate that Ten Points for Style is a combination of The Crown Jewels, House of Shards, and Rock of Ages (the one I don't have).
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59779 is a reply to message #59768 ] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 23:42 |
pedestrian
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I think someone GAVE Ayla the metagene complex as a stab against either his family or his position within his family.
The most likely conspirator is the father of his reading buddy, followed by his uncle, in my mind.
With all those blood samples laying around, perhaps one was lost to a mage of a particular bent. That would also help explain his unique physiology. Make this one alike to what these ones have in common. Since what they would have in common is they are mutants, not one particular type, just mutants, a certain random factor is allowed, and the gender quirk might have just been a side effect of using an averaged sample.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59794 is a reply to message #24285 ] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 08:13 |
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greyman
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| Babs wrote on Sun, 01 February 2009 04:55 | Why would some (alien? extra-planar? Let's just call them "outside") Why would some "outside" force change humanity to make them more powerful?
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Well, if there's anything to the "extreme Gaia hypothesis" discussed in the Braeburn report, the "outside" force might be a lot closer to home.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59795 is a reply to message #22555 ] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 08:31 |
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greyman
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| Diane Castle wrote on Sun, 18 January 2009 06:08 | It seems that the children of a mutant are more likely to manifest than average, and the children of two mutants are much more likely to manifest than average, and that the children of superheroes are even MORE likely to manifest: every one of the children of S.T.A.R. League manifested as a significant mutant. Billie's parents are both mutant superheroes (even if they work for the CIA), so maybe it was actually likely that the entire Wilson household would turn into The Incredibles. But Nikki's parents are not mutants. Toni's parents are not mutants. And I'm pretty sure Hank's parents aren't.
So something's going on, and current biological research hasn't figured it out.
Diane
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Pst. Epigenetic inheritance.
| Wikipedia | In biology, and specifically genetics, epigenetics is the study of heritable changes in gene expression or cellular phenotype caused by mechanisms other than changes in the underlying DNA sequence hence the name epi- (Greek: επί- over, above, outer) -genetics. It refers to functionally relevant modifications to the genome that do not involve a change in the nucleotide sequence. Examples of such changes are DNA methylation and histone modification, both of which serve to regulate gene expression without altering the underlying DNA sequence.
These changes may remain through cell divisions for the remainder of the cell's life and may also last for multiple generations. However, there is no change in the underlying DNA sequence of the organism;[1] instead, non-genetic factors cause the organism's genes to behave (or "express themselves") differently.[2]
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See also: Transgenerational epigenetics.
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| Re: Mutant siblings? [message #59798 is a reply to message #22451 ] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 10:27 |
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Sojiro
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From the examples we have, children of mutant superheroes (or villain) parents have a 100% manifestation rate (Tennyo and her siblings, the Diabolik children, Jobe, the STAR League Jr, Sophia, etc...). In all cases where we know all of the children from a couple of super-hero mutants, they have all manifested.
Of course, given that the stories are written from the point of view of mutant kids, we have a very strong bias here. Which is why you should be looking at siblings of core characters, mostly.
But even with that, a 100% rate is incredibly high compared to the normal rate (which is way lower than 0.01%, IIRC it is 10 to 100 times lower than that).
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