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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12187 is a reply to message #12186 ] Fri, 23 May 2008 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee
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From a number of things that Diane has written, both in-story and outside the stories (that is, in the forums), I guess she is "weaning" Ayla from using the disruption-light technique. Yes, it's convenient, but Ayla is learning the hard way that it is very dangerous, meaning that she could kill or maim someone by accident -- because she has no way of predicting how her disruption effect might interact with someone's own power. Witness what happened to the two fire bimbos she fought...

Meaning, that Ayla will *probably* focus in developing other skills and applications of her powers as main weapons -- disruption will tend to be reserved to a "last resort" thing. So, I can't see her carrying chain weapons around for use as disruption-light. I COULD see her using them when HEAVY, though...


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12189 is a reply to message #12187 ] Fri, 23 May 2008 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kiai  is currently offline Kiai
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Bummer. I can think of a few characters that deserve to get BIT-slapped.
Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12191 is a reply to message #12186 ] Fri, 23 May 2008 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Auly wrote on Fri, 23 May 2008 17:12

True if there is a distance component to it as well then using firearms or
thrown objects becomes viable weapon. You mention a steel ball. Well what
about a ball bearing? Or a baseball, perhaps a waterballoon (at speed water
has the nearly the tensile strength of steel), a Penney(cheep projectile).

Any other object that can be thrown hard and is small enough to keep in a pocket.
Throwing knives come to mind as they are designed for this kinda thing and provide
a great amount of mass and velocity at point of impact specially with Ayla's ability.
Another idea that comes to mind is chain weapons if she can keep it phased distruptive light.
Without injuring herself maybe even go solid with it inside something.
Another idea would be large mass wise but light weight wise thrown at a distance
designed to go back to normal density while within another object. Would she get hurt?
would it work? Now that I think of it a great many things can be turned into weapons.
But I'm babbling at this point.


Well, you're definitely going to have to read all of Ayla #4, because Ayla's already covered (almost all of) these. She first thinks of the throwing knives on the way back from "Boston Brawl 1". The water balloons? She thinks about them too. She even thinks about whether she could make some water go heavy and have enough surface tension that she could throw a ball of water with no balloon around it. Kind of gives a new meaning to the term 'heavy water'. And she is going to do it with a big snowball too. You'll see that 'Real Soon Now', to quote Jerry Pournelle.

Diane


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12192 is a reply to message #12189 ] Fri, 23 May 2008 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Kiai wrote on Fri, 23 May 2008 18:18

Bummer. I can think of a few characters that deserve to get BIT-slapped.


Don't think she won't do it. Maybe she has too much moral fiber to do it to a bully at Whateley, but in a life-or-death fight against murderous badguys, she'll do what she has to in order to protect her team. Fortunately for the villains in Boston Brawl 2, she settled for beating the %$^& out of them with a forty-foot giant. Very Happy Very Happy

Actually, most of the villains in Boston Brawl 2 don't have a BIT. Off-hand, of all the badguys in that story, I would say that only Vamp has a BIT. But Phase doesn't need the old phase-KO to take Vamp.

On the other hand, since the anti-Paladin has a devil bound within his body, I have no idea what would happen if Phase tried to phase-KO him. It could be drastically icky.

Diane

[Updated on: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:37]


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12193 is a reply to message #12192 ] Sat, 24 May 2008 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually it's reread but considering I get most of my reading done in short bursts between calls at work and such I do miss stuff..


"Jumping from high ledges without anticipation of fatal impact is
commonly know to be an unwise activity and is not
recommended by the legal team of Aperture, Inc"
Portal the game.
Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12196 is a reply to message #12193 ] Sat, 24 May 2008 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Auly wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 00:02

Actually it's reread but considering I get most of my reading done in short bursts between calls at work and such I do miss stuff..


Well, it's easier for me, since I wrote it, and edited it, and re-wrote some parts up to half a dozen times. And I have it in MS Weird, so I can search for stuff. (And I've run it all past the Cabal so that dopey stuff has often been caught before it ever reached this website, and clever stuff has been added. For instance, Babs was the one who first suggested the water, without balloon.)

Diane


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12197 is a reply to message #12196 ] Sat, 24 May 2008 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perhaps a Non-newtonian fluid would work better..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Newtonian_fluid


"Jumping from high ledges without anticipation of fatal impact is
commonly know to be an unwise activity and is not
recommended by the legal team of Aperture, Inc"
Portal the game.
Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12199 is a reply to message #12197 ] Sat, 24 May 2008 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Auly wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 10:30

Perhaps a Non-newtonian fluid would work better..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Newtonian_fluid



Cornstarch and water. I like around a 3-2 ratio, although (in my experience) relative humidity and the age of the cornstarch usually mean you have to tinker with it to get the right shear-thickening properties.

Man. A shear-thickening fluid like that, with apparent density about 20 or 25 times normal, thrown like a baseball? That could *hurt*. Twisted Evil But then the evidence stays around. With a water bomb (no balloon used), the victim might never know what hit him. Especially, say, during a cold, wet, winter day...

If Ayla can figure out how to steal panties off girls with her power, there's no telling what else she might think of.

Diane


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12200 is a reply to message #11300 ] Sat, 24 May 2008 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maggie_Finson  is currently offline Maggie_Finson
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Well, this isn't about non-neutonian fluids, but in my wilder days (okay, when I was an idiot teenager), I froze an egg, managed to shell it, refroze it, then threw it through a window. Think about it. And I NEVER admitted to this!

[Updated on: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:38]


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12204 is a reply to message #11300 ] Mon, 26 May 2008 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any bets that Ayla's going to get someone on-campus to make her more psi-grenades, now that she knows who does what well? Or get a pet galvanomorph of her very own?

And of course... now Jade and Ayla can double up on BIT-related schemes. And that 36% of Thuban's company reserved for raising capital... Smile

[Updated on: Mon, 26 May 2008 04:26]


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12205 is a reply to message #11300 ] Mon, 26 May 2008 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Either ways...it seems like Ayla is starting up a whole new branch of the Goodkind Corp. as a patenting agent. She might be the next Poe Cottage fixer.

*shrug*

Plus, the stuff in the Weapons Fair = awesome ^_^

Glue Grenades+Belle=WIN!


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12206 is a reply to message #12205 ] Mon, 26 May 2008 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great chapter pure fun. Loved the way you blurred the good guy bad guy line.

[Updated on: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:28]


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12207 is a reply to message #12206 ] Mon, 26 May 2008 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Minor issue, though: Ayla mentions Faction 3 to Delarose. This is middle-to-late October. From what I remember from the Jade stories, I think Faction 3 hadn't been officially launched yet -- meaning that it shouldn't be well-known enough to be used as a figure of speech.

Even if Ayla had heard something about it (Delarose probably had), she shouldn't have a clear idea of what it is that early in the school year.

Ayla is certainly growing her portfolio of clients. Now she has to begin thinking about how to talk them into the best ways to market their creations -- for instance: how to convince Bunny into packaging her gadgets in other forms. At least, offering other kinds of finishes to her eggs... like no-rhinestones, camo-painted eggs. That might go well with the testosterone-bound crowd.

While she's at it, she probably should go back to the list of people she saw at the Weapons Fair and offer her services to a couple more. I mean, if there's a product there that should sell by the shipload, it's Hydroflux's stuff...

Speaking of luxury items, it was interesting the way she immediately thought about the bad applications of Fran's power. Of course, she hasn't MET Fran. I'm betting the minute Ayla hears about her talent as a decorator (sometime in later November or December, probably -- Sam has to discover her talent first), Ayla's room will be upgraded with nicer furniture -- and Fran will get a rich patron.

Also in the "Genuinely Interesting Technology" dept: Dr. Goodvibes noise-cancellation rig should be highly popular in the dorms -- imagine, a "have a party without bothering your neighbors" thing! I really though Ayla would go for it, given how everybody complains about her taste in music, but now that she has a roommate, the bone-conduction headphones make more sense. Maybe if the Weapons Fair had been a few weeks earlier, before Chou arrived...

[Updated on: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:58]


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12208 is a reply to message #12204 ] Mon, 26 May 2008 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Coral wrote on Sun, 25 May 2008 22:19

Any bets that Ayla's going to get someone on-campus to make her more psi-grenades, now that she knows who does what well? Or get a pet galvanomorph of her very own?


The psi-grenades are a problem. *NO* one can make the darn things. There's one deviser on the planet who makes the things. Once in a while. Only a few get made per year, and there's no way to know who else is in the queue. Right now, Ayla's on back-order.

If Ayla were running Sin d'Rome's website, those psi-grenades would be WAY more expensive. Supply and demand, and all that.

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And of course... now Jade and Ayla can double up on BIT-related schemes.


Next chapter. You're just too far ahead of Ayla.

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And that 36% of Thuban's company reserved for raising capital... Smile


Ayla won't learn of that until after Jade starts getting tortured.. umm I mean.. participating in experimentation. Yeah, that's what I meant. That's not until after Ayla #4 ends.

Diane


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Re: To Phase or Not to Phase... [message #12209 is a reply to message #12207 ] Mon, 26 May 2008 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Diane Castle  is currently offline Diane Castle
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Sir Lee wrote on Mon, 26 May 2008 06:31

Minor issue, though: Ayla mentions Faction 3 to Delarose. This is middle-to-late October. From what I remember from the Jade stories, I think Faction 3 hadn't been officially launched yet -- meaning that it shouldn't be well-known enough to be used as a figure of speech.

Even if Ayla had heard something about it (Delarose probably had), she shouldn't have a clear idea of what it is that early in the school year.


She's going on gossip she picked up from other Golden Kids, who DO know more about what Thuban is up to than he would prefer. And it's not like Thuban can keep this quiet when he's talking to well over 10% of the campus, and plenty of them don't like his idea (and hence are loudly complaining about it to others).

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Ayla is certainly growing her portfolio of clients. Now she has to begin thinking about how to talk them into the best ways to market their creations -- for instance: how to convince Bunny into packaging her gadgets in other forms. At least, offering other kinds of finishes to her eggs... like no-rhinestones, camo-painted eggs. That might go well with the testosterone-bound crowd.


You'll see how she's approaching this, in another chapter or three, when she meets with Bunny again.

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While she's at it, she probably should go back to the list of people she saw at the Weapons Fair and offer her services to a couple more. I mean, if there's a product there that should sell by the shipload, it's Hydroflux's stuff...


Yes. Of course, some of this will be off-camera, just as the part about negotiating with Automa-Tech was not included, because [1] it would have made parts of the Weapons Fair story repetitive; and [2] I never did find a way to write it that didn't strike ME as tedious.

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Speaking of luxury items, it was interesting the way she immediately thought about the bad applications of Fran's power. Of course, she hasn't MET Fran. I'm betting the minute Ayla hears about her talent as a decorator (sometime in later November or December, probably -- Sam has to discover her talent first), Ayla's room will be upgraded with nicer furniture -- and Fran will get a rich patron.


And a job offer. If Ayla is already thinking in terms of handling home (and other) construction for supers, then clearly she needs a really good interior designer and decorator. Right?

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Also in the "Genuinely Interesting Technology" dept: Dr. Goodvibes noise-cancellation rig should be highly popular in the dorms -- imagine, a "have a party without bothering your neighbors" thing! I really though Ayla would go for it, given how everybody complains about her taste in music, but now that she has a roommate, the bone-conduction headphones make more sense. Maybe if the Weapons Fair had been a few weeks earlier, before Chou arrived...


Just because Ayla didn't buy it for her own room doesn't mean she doesn't have something in mind.

After "The Turks or the Geek", Goodvibes may not want to talk to a member of Team Kimba, but that's a different issue.

Diane


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