| Re: Eldritch discussion [message #12143 is a reply to message #12137 ] |
Wed, 21 May 2008 14:51   |
 Kiai
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I'm assuming that JG already has a firm idea of what the inking solution is, but I'll advance this idea for discussion...
In lives past, Eldritch has been in a 'belonging-to' relationship with one owner... which fit with the idea of comfort and security for the timid girl who was the typical artificer.
Now, on top of a kick-ass don't-tread-on-me attitude, Caitlin is rapidly developing firm friendships with a number of different factions in the Whateley community. The relationship there is 'belonging-with', which isn't ownership but can be just as steadying (one reason for the 'You may not be a witch alone' maxim).
Why not, then, put together a short succinct ritual, a mere formal pact of friendship, and take a few drops of blood from each friend, along with the binding of that pact, to incorporate into the ink? Then there's no single master, not even a coven, instead there's a binding of membership into a community of equals. That kind of membership within the Whateley community is kinda where Erik Mahren was heading anyway, had Cat's death not interfered (presuming her to be a steadying and socializing influence on him).
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| Re: Eldritch discussion [message #12151 is a reply to message #12143 ] |
Wed, 21 May 2008 21:45 |
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stacy
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I'm not sure that's gonna work with a mix like that. Circe and she knows it has to be some aspect of herself, to make the ink finished and usable. I'm not sure what that is gonna be, I hope JG has some idea. I wonder if it is something that shows his commitment to doing a job well, or maybe his commitment to Cat, or who knows except JG. I also wonder how she is gonna handle doing the tats. In all I have read, it talked about the designs being specific to the Master doing the tats, but always specified being all over the body. Its like the master doing them just "knows" where to place which design. I wonder if she can get one of the workshops to make a rig that will actually do a tat in a place she can't reach or see, kind of like the rig they used to sell where you traced a design and it was replicated on the paper. The stories I have read, (some were before Canon of course, so it may change), always had the Master doing the tats, so I don't think she wants anyone to actually help do it for her.......the magick may take over and enslave her anyway.....magick does strange things though.
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| Re: Eldritch discussion [message #12154 is a reply to message #12153 ] |
Thu, 22 May 2008 01:30 |
Kiai
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| Warren wrote on Thu, 22 May 2008 00:45 |
well the catch is, if anyone has anything to do with the tattooing they could "get control" of the artificer. And Eldritch would turn into a mindless/soulless robot.
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Hence my thinking of both distributing the load, and magically (oath-)binding the relationship as a peer-connection rather than a master/slave connection. If one person in the connection-pool tries to assert ownership, they'll be bucking, not only the bond-intent of the relationship, but all of the others in the pool who don't want that to happen. Meanwhile, Caitlin is anchored by a whole community of connected peers, effectively a loosely-coupled coven. For anybody to seize mastery of her, they'd have to overpower or kill off everybody in the pool first.
A best-case approach would probably be some means of binding now-Caitlin to earlier-Erik's will, and my guess is that JG has some saved-off means of doing that, but either no suitable object-link has been revealed in the story thus far (they did remark on the lack of survivng medical blood samples from Erik, and any blood shed out on the test range is mid-transition and so probably not usable for the binding) or I overlooked it in reading.
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| Re: Eldritch discussion [message #12155 is a reply to message #12151 ] |
Thu, 22 May 2008 01:45 |
Kiai
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| stacy wrote on Wed, 21 May 2008 21:45 |
I also wonder how she is gonna handle doing the tats. In all I have read, it talked about the designs being specific to the Master doing the tats, but always specified being all over the body. Its like the master doing them just "knows" where to place which design. I wonder if she can get one of the workshops to make a rig that will actually do a tat in a place she can't reach or see, kind of like the rig they used to sell where you traced a design and it was replicated on the paper. The stories I have read, (some were before Canon of course, so it may change), always had the Master doing the tats, so I don't think she wants anyone to actually help do it for her.
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She can and probably will do it all herself with a couple of mirrors and a pantograph-like jig to move the needle-gun around. As an Artificer, I expect she'll intuit the designs just as she's intuiting the ink; the Eldritch spirit might even have originally designed the tats which her various masters then applied.
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| Re: Eldritch [message #12369 is a reply to message #12368 ] |
Mon, 02 June 2008 07:58 |
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Marcus
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| Diane Castle wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 06:26 |
And yeah, I totally cracked up when she went Hannibal on the voodoo-weres. Caitlin is nearly as scary as J.G. himself.
Diane
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Gives a good idea, how big a suprise some people are going to get, if they try get control of the artificer. 
Any would-be tatooist is likely to lose a limb, in bite-sized chunks, if they come to close.
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| Re: Eldritch [message #12375 is a reply to message #12369 ] |
Mon, 02 June 2008 19:25 |
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KenJ
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Diane wrote: Caitlin's had 'metallic' skin all along. She's not really human. Remember the blood tests they did on her?
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But Diane, don't you remember the fight Caitlin and Diamondback had with Bloodwolf and his Ultraviolents? Caitlin's skin got badly cut in several places by Bloodwolf's claws in that fight, now Caitlin's skin is imperious to the Voodoo-wolves claws. Something in Caitlin has changed since her fight with Bloodwolf. I figure that either the fight with Bloodwolf triggered her skin to become metallically tough as it healed from the injuries, or something about the Voodoo-Wolves triggered a magical defense mechanism.
So, what happened?
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| Re: Eldritch [message #12380 is a reply to message #12376 ] |
Mon, 02 June 2008 23:21 |
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stacy
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I also recall her hair as looking metallic, but was some type of super strong mess that could be used in a pinch as fishing line, and her eyes have the metallic are with runes, but nothing was mentioned about her skin, how else could they draw blood tests, or how could she be taken by tranq darts. Off topic here, but a question.....I was re-reading Ill Winds and something jumped out and grabbed me. Back when THE FIVE were introduced in the glade, it was like Chou had never been there, but Destiny's Wave had taken her to the glade quite a while back and used the reflecting pond to show her another handmaiden that didn't like to kill and the results when a whole village was killed, along with the important male child.
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