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Mon, 16 February 2009 17:19   |
 Belgarion213
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Actually while its been a while IIRC the intro stories mentioned it. The One where Jade and Tenryo first met IIRC while on the shuttle bus.
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #30701 is a reply to message #30691 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 19:52 |
XaltatunOfAcheron
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| oljak.eru wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 16:53 |
There was a mention in either Jade 9 or Ayla 7 p1 about a finding-jobs-only-you-can-do course that Tennyo might take. And I saw a mention about an anti-asteroid defense being a political hot potatoe in the wiki. I just thought - hey, put Tennyo on standby for that, she can probably do it far more efficiently than any missile can, and should be able to do it with less prior warning.
(Considering that we have seen several potential planet-wipers only *after* they have already passed us at distances closer than the moon, and the strongest nuclear bombs we have only would be able to divert the course of a whole or fragmentary asteroid by fractions of a degree, and an asteroid landing in fragments would be potentially even more devastating than a solid single hit... Tennyo is probably a more reliable counter.)
Just a thought.
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Well, the biggest thing we've actually seen Tennyo do is blast a Syndicate dropship out of the air. And we saw Tiny Tim do the same with a plasma cannon right about the same time.
And there are other ways of taking care of a rogue asteroid as long as you see it in time. A gravity tether would work nicely. It just sits there orbiting the asteroid, and when it's in the precisely right place the ion rocket adds a bit of momentum in precisely the right direction. Over enough time, the orbit shifts to where its no longer a danger.
And it could be done today. No new physics required. No big, nasty bombs required either.
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #30702 is a reply to message #428 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 20:11 |
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Rabiata
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For asteroid interception, there is also the matter of flight time to a reasonable intercept distance. In "Christmas Crisis", she needs several hours to reach the former NORAD base.
Deflecting an asteroid would be best done a few million miles out, so a little change in velocity turns into a miss against an earth sized target. Tennyo needs to get a lot faster for that.
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #30714 is a reply to message #27122 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 21:26 |
MitchellTF
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| oljak.eru wrote on Mon, 16 February 2009 15:48 |
I just noticed one thing that passed me by earlier:| Quoth The Ninja, Nevermore! |
Having been kicked out of the sunroom, five girls and one guy squeezed into a tiny two-person bedroom. To help make room, one of the girls was standing upside down on the ceiling. Even if she hadn't been, Tennyo would have drawn a double-take. With spiky blue hair that defied gravity (even when she was right-side up), amber cat-slitted eyes, and small fangs that protruded when she smiled, the cocky girl didn't quite look human. Cute and sexy, yes. But not exactly human – even if you ignored the tail that sometimes swished behind her.
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Has Tennyo been mentioned as *sometimes* having a tail anywhere else?
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Could be part of her outfit, like with OVA Ryoko? (Controlled via Jade?)
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #30748 is a reply to message #30701 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 23:53 |
oljak.eru
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| XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 00:52 |
Well, the biggest thing we've actually seen Tennyo do is blast a Syndicate dropship out of the air. And we saw Tiny Tim do the same with a plasma cannon right about the same time.
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Don't forget a rip in reality that could have destroyed the entire planet if left unstopped, or the disintegrating aura she used in the Quarantine Dimension. Those are both considerably stronger effects than anything she used against the dropship. But those are both rather small compared to the 300 mile radius blast the Chessmaster had as one possible event, or the power potential in her antimatter nature.
| XaltatunOfAcheron wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 00:52 |
And there are other ways of taking care of a rogue asteroid as long as you see it in time. A gravity tether would work nicely. It just sits there orbiting the asteroid, and when it's in the precisely right place the ion rocket adds a bit of momentum in precisely the right direction. Over enough time, the orbit shifts to where its no longer a danger.
And it could be done today. No new physics required. No big, nasty bombs required either.
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Most asteroids we don't even see until *after* they pass us. And they pass us at speeds in the vicinity of 20 km/s. The average distance to the moon is about 380 000 km with about 20 000 km variation due to the eliptical orbit. That makes about five hours warning if we discover it at a distance similar to that to the moon - which is an unrealistically early warning. To be able to divert an asteroid of the size we're talking about, we're talking about forces sized similar to the strongest nuclear bomb ever built (a Soviet bomb that is way too heavy to be practical to deliver by anything other than boat and certainly not a rocket), and would have to take it out before it came five times as far away as the moon - meaning when we hit it, not when we detect it. Now, we're able to get a good 13 km/s if we sling a vessel by the moon, given that directions work with us. Or if we have the launchin site based on the moon, we can get nearly 20km/s if slinging it by Earth, though the direction the asteroid would have to come from for that to make sense is not a likely one to be in question. (In fact the max speed of this action is closer to 60 km/s, but that would only make sense for asteroids that couldn't possibly hit us.) Anything we're likely to actually detect the asteroid at though, our devilery vessel would move at about 11-12 km/s and be well beyond the point where nothing we could possibly throw at it could do anything to save us. Now, what range would we need to detect the asteroid at, if we have an immediate response? No hesitation, politics can't be allowed to interfere, and everything is prepared for launch with zero delay. We're talking about needing to hit the asteroid when it's at least 25-30 hours out. That point is about 2.3 million km away. To reach that point, we need close to 60 hours. So, we need to detect the asteroid hurtling against us at least 60 hours before it reaches that point. Which makes the last point of detection if we're to have a chance at diverting it about 7 million km away, about four days out. That is if we have ideal conditions and timing, mind you. And using the most powerful force of diversion we have. The difficulty of detection rises quadratically with the distance, and we're at the moment hard caught when it comes to detecting the things when they're just skirting the atmosphere, 100 km out.
Now, Tennyo has benefits in this regard - gravity only affects her when she wants it. Which means she likely can use it to her advantage but ignore it when it's to her disadvantage. She should be able to gain a considerable speed if she uses Earth's rotational speed, timed immunity to gravity, and the presence of two usable gravity wells to her advantage. Her powers should be able to disintegrate, divert or fragment the asteroid at far closer ranges than any other method we've deviced in the real world.
[Updated on: Tue, 10 March 2009 23:53]
“I am SO level-headed! And anyone who says different is going to have to answer to... The CABBIT OF DOOM!” -Jade
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #30785 is a reply to message #30702 ] |
Wed, 11 March 2009 04:32 |
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| Rabiata wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 01:11 |
For asteroid interception, there is also the matter of flight time to a reasonable intercept distance. In "Christmas Crisis", she needs several hours to reach the former NORAD base.
Deflecting an asteroid would be best done a few million miles out, so a little change in velocity turns into a miss against an earth sized target. Tennyo needs to get a lot faster for that.
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Well, that was her first long-distance flight ever, she needed to find her way to the base via landmarks, and she was actively trying to avoid detection at the time, so had to stay at low altitudes.
And, of course, by comic book convention flight within an atmospheric envelope is a different beast from travel through space, where high-powered characters can really open up without fear of collateral damage to the environment. 
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #30827 is a reply to message #30825 ] |
Wed, 11 March 2009 09:08 |
oljak.eru
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| Faraway wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 13:54 |
About acceleration vs. speed:
1)It was mentioned that "slippery" TK supermen fly faster than normals.
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Makes sense inside an atmosphere. No air friction, so drag would be the major remaining hindering force.
[Updated on: Wed, 11 March 2009 09:08]
“I am SO level-headed! And anyone who says different is going to have to answer to... The CABBIT OF DOOM!” -Jade
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| Re: Tennyo: Or what's in your past? [message #31476 is a reply to message #31428 ] |
Mon, 16 March 2009 01:11 |
heckfire
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| MitchellTF wrote on Sun, 15 March 2009 20:20 |
Oh, source on RYOKO's tail...
http://web.archive.org/web/20031210223052/http://www.rolfott o.com/101_FACTS/TENCHI_101_FACTS.html
42. What is Ryoko's tail?
Answer:
It is a mere accessory.
More details ...
In ep.4 and ep.7, Ryoko seemed to have a tail, which moved like a cat's. On the other hand, the naked Ryoko in the onsen in ep.4 (and at other times) doesn't seem to have one. Her tail is an accessory attached to her clothes. Although it moves in tune with her emotions, it is not a real tail.
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...huh. I've been crushing on Ryoko for years, but I always wondered about that. I just assumed it was an anime sight gag, like the sweatdrops and nosebleeds.
"I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy.... All right, give me the bomb." —Ultra Magnus
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