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Wed, 14 March 2012 05:29   |
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 Nicky82
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I would like to point out that there is a case of a guy turned into a girl by magic in Canon: Folder.
Which makes me wonder why Mega Girl hasn't been turned into a real girl yet, she isn't an exemplar, she isn't a Shifter or a regenerator either and she has no GSD, Fey should be able to do it.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55341 is a reply to message #49139 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 07:35 |
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Sojiro
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"Doable" doesn't equate "easy" or even "safe".
Megagirl's shell will work and will make her into the total babe she want to be. No reason to take crazy risks.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55344 is a reply to message #55329 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 08:50 |
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Cockle
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| Diane Castle wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 03:46 | The BIT is very important, if Carmilla is correct. If you have to have enough power to change the BIT in all the dimensions it bleeds into, then you might need phenomenal amounts of power, and you *might* attract the attention of something that lives in one of those far dimensions. This would be bad.
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Someone really should point this out to Phase, seeing as he's already attracted the attention of one extra-dimensional nightmare.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55345 is a reply to message #55341 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 10:20 |
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Nicky82
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| Sojiro wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 12:35 | "Doable" doesn't equate "easy" or even "safe".
Megagirl's shell will work and will make her into the total babe she want to be. No reason to take crazy risks.
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It might take her years to female enough to have sex, I would think that giving her a normal life as soon as possible has its definite advantages.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55347 is a reply to message #55345 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 11:02 |
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Cockle
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| Nicky82 wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 14:20 | | Sojiro wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 12:35 | "Doable" doesn't equate "easy" or even "safe".
Megagirl's shell will work and will make her into the total babe she want to be. No reason to take crazy risks.
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It might take her years to female enough to have sex, I would think that giving her a normal life as soon as possible has its definite advantages.
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She's a kid. She probably oughtn't to be having sex any time soon. She might not even be that interested in it yet.
As it stands, she can do all the girly stuff she wants to. Her big stumbling block appears to be cash rather than her body.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55352 is a reply to message #55347 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 12:57 |
awjs
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| Cockle wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 10:02 | | Nicky82 wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 14:20 | | Sojiro wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 12:35 | "Doable" doesn't equate "easy" or even "safe".
Megagirl's shell will work and will make her into the total babe she want to be. No reason to take crazy risks.
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It might take her years to female enough to have sex, I would think that giving her a normal life as soon as possible has its definite advantages.
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She's a kid. She probably oughtn't to be having sex any time soon. She might not even be that interested in it yet.
As it stands, she can do all the girly stuff she wants to. Her big stumbling block appears to be cash rather than her body.
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I think she is interested in sex.
Remember that date she got from working Ayla Golden Kids party? Afterwards, it turns out that the guy wanted to go further than kissing and got upset when she said no (which makes him a total jackass IMO). When explaining it to Ayla, she said something along the lines of "It's not like I don't want to, it's that I can't! At least not for a few years, but I can't tell him that!" [not an exact quote, just from memory]
Sorry if this is just me nitpicking and not helping.
‘luck in good finds’ -from Test Tube Babies
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55359 is a reply to message #55352 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 15:03 |
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Nicky82
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| awjs wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 17:57 | | Cockle wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 10:02 | | Nicky82 wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 14:20 | | Sojiro wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 12:35 | "Doable" doesn't equate "easy" or even "safe".
Megagirl's shell will work and will make her into the total babe she want to be. No reason to take crazy risks.
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It might take her years to female enough to have sex, I would think that giving her a normal life as soon as possible has its definite advantages.
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She's a kid. She probably oughtn't to be having sex any time soon. She might not even be that interested in it yet.
As it stands, she can do all the girly stuff she wants to. Her big stumbling block appears to be cash rather than her body.
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I think she is interested in sex.
Remember that date she got from working Ayla Golden Kids party? Afterwards, it turns out that the guy wanted to go further than kissing and got upset when she said no (which makes him a total jackass IMO). When explaining it to Ayla, she said something along the lines of "It's not like I don't want to, it's that I can't! At least not for a few years, but I can't tell him that!" [not an exact quote, just from memory]
Sorry if this is just me nitpicking and not helping.
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It's in the 4th chapter of the Birthday Brawl:
Ayla and the Birthday Brawl
CHAPTER 4 The Legend of Cambel and Triamond, or of Friendship | I checked my watch, and I still had a few minutes. So I went upstairs and checked on Marty and Elaine. I hardly finished my knock when Marty was flying over and yanking the door open. Her face fell when she saw it was just me.
I said, "Wow, you sure know how to make a guy feel appreciated around here."
Marty miserably muttered, "C'mon in." She put a huge pout on her face, floated back over to her bed, and dropped onto the bedspread. She had a book open, but she wasn't really paying much attention to it.
Elaine turned from where she was working on the harness of her uniform. Again. "She's kind of upset. Her date went real well, right up until she didn't want to put out..."
"Oh, I wanted to," Marty fussed, "But it's not like I can yet!"
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| Re: On Magic... [message #55360 is a reply to message #55352 ] |
Wed, 14 March 2012 15:21 |
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Cockle
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| awjs wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 16:57 | | Cockle wrote on Wed, 14 March 2012 10:02 |
She's a kid. She probably oughtn't to be having sex any time soon. She might not even be that interested in it yet.
As it stands, she can do all the girly stuff she wants to. Her big stumbling block appears to be cash rather than her body.
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I think she is interested in sex.
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So she is.
So maybe it's not a bad thing that she can't just yet. 
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| Re: On Magic... [message #56555 is a reply to message #56552 ] |
Mon, 09 April 2012 21:01 |
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Diane Castle
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| curiousreader wrote on Mon, 09 April 2012 17:42 | Hello everyone, I hope that you all had a nice weekend.
A question flouted through my head this weekend and I had to ask for clarification.
How powerful does a wizard have to be to set off a 7.5 earthquake, an f4 tornado, a volcano and cause a Tsunami at the same time?
Are we talking full on dark wizard or mythos, or can say wiz-3 pull something like this off with enough prep time?
Also if he where caught setting these things off, how much prison time do you think he would be looking at?
20 to life with no possibility for parole?
The death penalty?
or 40 years with the option for parole in 20?
One more for the road. What charges would you bring on this guy? Wanton destruction of property? Malevolent use of magical abilities? How about Environmental destruction to the area and communities?
Thanks for the advice and as always much appreciated.
Cheers
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[1] How powerful does the Wizard have to be? He'd have to be outside of Whateley canon. Maybe Nikki could do it if Aunghadhail was running things, and she didn't mind destroying several large ecosystems or entire biomes in the process. There's a lot of energy involved in each of your conditions, and that energy has to come from *somewhere*. You can't just stand up and shout "odanrot hcnual" like some non-Whateley characters.
[2] Death penalty. We're talking mass murder on a huge scale. Unfortunately, there would be no trial, because you'd have to sick several of the top superhero teams of the Whateley Universe on said badguy with orders to pull no punches. Either the badguy would get killed in the ensuing fight, or else all the superhero teams would. If the badguy won, launching nuclear missiles would probably be the next step.
Diane
"WHO has deactivated my BEAUTIFUL frogs?"
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| Re: On Magic... [message #56561 is a reply to message #56552 ] |
Mon, 09 April 2012 22:17 |
Laudator
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| curiousreader wrote on Tue, 10 April 2012 01:42 | How powerful does a wizard have to be to set off a 7.5 earthquake, an f4 tornado, a volcano and cause a Tsunami at the same time?
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Some brief googling suggests that all of those could be in the megatons of TNT bracket, or even higher.
Most likely smaller than Tsar Bomba, but ounces to pounds of antimatter, if I've done the conversions right.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #56565 is a reply to message #49139 ] |
Tue, 10 April 2012 00:27 |
khade
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Interestingly, I think the Volcano would be the easiest. Though it would be very very hard still and would have to be in places where volcanoes are likely to be, unless they put a ton of power into it,
With a few years to work on it, thorough knowledge of geology and earth processes, the earthquake could be doable, just encourage a slip in the right place, once again, limited to places with fault-lines, active would be easier but probably do less damage, inactive would be much harder but would be utterly devastating.
With a few years to work on it, thorough knowledge of meteorology and other assorted weather sciences, someone could potentially cause massive storms without undue energy usage, , but they'd need to be an absolute expert on weather patterns. Again, it would be much easier but less devastating in a place where those weather patterns are.
I think weather would be the hardest.
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| Re: On Magic... [message #56569 is a reply to message #56563 ] |
Tue, 10 April 2012 00:34 |
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Diane Castle
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| curiousreader wrote on Mon, 09 April 2012 19:51 | HHHmmm then if he can't do all three, could he pull off one of then?
Here is something to make this a more interesting scenario, lets make him a wiz-5 with a year prep time, in advance, and only one superhero in his trail.
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Then I would say yes, assuming he has a magical way of collecting all that Essence and storing it. Call it... the Energizer Were-Rabbit. 
365 days of steady Essence drawing into magical batteries around the target site? That's a LOT of power to have on hand. Then use an already building thunderstorm as your base to create the tornado(s) with all that Essence.
In theory, a small quake could *possibly* be done solely with fracking equipment. The size of a quake from fracking is arguable, but it's generally believed that fracking in some places has already caused 2.0 and 3.0 quakes. So a year spent massaging a fault line, magically keeping it from any slipping that might relieve the pressure, then all at once you hit the fault line with a year's worth of Essence designed to make the two sides of the fault line 'slippery' for a few seconds. Boom.
So, yeah. Give it a year's serious prep and the right kinds of spells, and I'd say it's possible. Useful? Maybe not. "I've unleashed the power of a tornado! And... MY TRUCK!!!!"
Diane
"WHO has deactivated my BEAUTIFUL frogs?"
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