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Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #7326] Tue, 20 February 2007 00:32 Go to next message
J.G.  is currently offline J.G.
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I suppose it was inevitable. I'm now officially published, so I'm opening this corner of the forum to a discussion of all things Outcast. Damn you canon cabal for making me do this myself rather than being lazy.

*winces as the cabal collar delivers an electric shock*

Yes Masters, I will obey without complaint.

Ok so feel free to open fire!

-JG


Jericho: "Get your mind out of the gutter, you're blocking my periscope."

Eldritch: "Hey, I'm a classic case of what happens when you give a nerd a gun."
Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #7329] Tue, 20 February 2007 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm there's this Cabal again...
Maybe it is time the Canon Crew bought a cannon to shoot this mythical Cabala?


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Re: Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #7330] Tue, 20 February 2007 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John in Wauwatosa  is currently offline John in Wauwatosa
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"J.G."

I suppose it was inevitable.
*winces as the cabal collar delivers an electric shock*
...
Yes Masters, I will obey without complaint.

Ok so feel free to open fire!

-JG


JG, um where is that collar? Also what freqency? Wink

-- frantically presses every old remote control he can find --

I will have to read the updated posting.

Open fire? Okay

Loads 11 inch shell into 280mm US Army fiield cannon from the 1950's, plutonium implosion load, 25KT yield. FIRE! JG, DUCK and cover! :twisted:

John in Wauwatosa

P.S. I am so jealous you are canon Razz


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how strong [message #7537] Mon, 12 March 2007 03:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A question about strength and stamina Confused
Is there an chart for strength and stamina for shape shifters?

How strong are Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho?

And how would they stack up to your every day young shifter?

Is there any scale? Confused


Korreel
Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #7538] Mon, 12 March 2007 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A question about strength and stamina Confused
Is there an chart for strength and stamina for shape shifters?


shifters, no, not really, besides I don't do much with shifters.

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How strong are Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho?


Caitlin and Diamondback are the two strongest, both floating in the range of 1000-1600 pond bench weight apiece.

Razor's just really strong, think Weightlifter.

Jericho's got the awesome strength of a fifteen year old boy.

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And how would they stack up to your every day young shifter?


every day young shifters are weird, they don't have a fixed strength index so far as I know, since shifters aren't exactly like exemplars. But strengthwise exemplars tend to be the more powerhoused of the two. there are always exceptions

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Is there any scale? Confused


No, there really isn't. There's no hard and fast laws of strength for shifters, unlike there are in some source materiels such as say White Wolf Games. I'm not the best person to field this question to.

Plus, strength is a relative term, so if you could gimmie an idea on specific questions I might be able to give better answers.

-JG[/quote]


Jericho: "Get your mind out of the gutter, you're blocking my periscope."

Eldritch: "Hey, I'm a classic case of what happens when you give a nerd a gun."
Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #7540] Mon, 12 March 2007 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Motley  is currently offline Motley
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Without fielding the question to the author's list for a week's worth of discussion, take this as my personal opinion.

Shifters are only as strong as they are physically able to be, which can easily outpace a human as we are the weaklings of the animal world. Of course, that only applies to pure shifters. Having more than one power is not uncommon in Whateley world. Someone who appears to be a simple shifter might have other things going on behind the scenes like telekinesis, magic, or avatarism (is that a word?).

So more or less the answer will be 'as strong as you want to make them.'


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two copper's worth [message #7564] Thu, 15 March 2007 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Motley"

<snip> Having more than one power is not uncommon in Whateley world. Someone who appears to be a simple shifter might have other things going on behind the scenes like telekinesis, magic, or avatarism (is that a word?).


the same should be said about GSD cases as well. remember Montana at the F3 meeting revealing he was also a devisor to Lazuli (jinn)??

Avatarism, no, but they might be Avatars in addition to anything else they have going on (Just My Opinion!) as we found out that Tansey is a closet Avatar (along with other things in the closet).

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So more or less the answer will be 'as strong as you want to make them.'
With in reason.

I have a MOPAR (Massively Over Powered And Respected) character in mind, but I am toning him WAY down to make the story work. he has serveral flaws (built in) and another thing he's lost and needs to find (soul? Nope, sold mine :twisted: )

just as an example


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Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #8593] Wed, 13 June 2007 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Flipside  is currently offline Flipside
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Just read your stories JG and must say, loved them. You got a very interesting character in Caitlin, kinda a mix between Fey and Hive, but different than both. All your background and details about artificers are facinating, and can't wait to see more of what she can do.

I am kinda wondering though how the general magic and gadgeteering population will recieve her ability to disassemble anything. Would be disheartening for one of them to build a super weapon, only to have Caitlen throw a bucket of water on it and make it explode.

Along those lines, should be interesting when she meets Jade, and realizes that she isn't really a gadgeteer. Wonder if she could even destroy Destiny's Wave if she really wanted to, after all, anything that can be made can be unmade.

And lastly, I'm assuming that her intuition doesn't extend to orgaincs, or like you said, she'd make a pretty decent heart surgeon in a pinch.

Enough for now, and again, welcome to the published world of whateley!


Damn infectious writer's bug.
Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #8610] Thu, 14 June 2007 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just read your stories JG and must say, loved them. You got a very interesting character in Caitlin, kinda a mix between Fey and Hive, but different than both. All your background and details about artificers are facinating, and can't wait to see more of what she can do.


More is coming... Yesss... OW! Bender quit hitting me when I act weird! Now where were we?

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I am kinda wondering though how the general magic and gadgeteering population will recieve her ability to disassemble anything. Would be disheartening for one of them to build a super weapon, only to have Caitlen throw a bucket of water on it and make it explode.


We will likely see mixed reviews, ranging from "I bet I can stump her!" to "NOOOOO! My Mind-Control ray! You broke it!"

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Along those lines, should be interesting when she meets Jade, and realizes that she isn't really a gadgeteer. Wonder if she could even destroy Destiny's Wave if she really wanted to, after all, anything that can be made can be unmade.


When she meets Jade... You might be surprised, and as far as Destiny's Wave... Not tellin' MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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And lastly, I'm assuming that her intuition doesn't extend to orgaincs, or like you said, she'd make a pretty decent heart surgeon in a pinch.


Alas, Caitlin's idea of open heart surgery involves a Bowie knife and a shallow grave. So no, she's not yet capable of heart surgery.

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Enough for now, and again, welcome to the published world of whateley!


Thanks! Good to meet ya!

-JG


Jericho: "Get your mind out of the gutter, you're blocking my periscope."

Eldritch: "Hey, I'm a classic case of what happens when you give a nerd a gun."
Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #8611] Thu, 14 June 2007 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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J.G.

More is coming... Yesss... OW! Bender quit hitting me when I act weird! Now where were we?

Why am I suddenly assailed by visions of Beast War's Megatron? Yesss..... indeed, it would not be something easily mistaken, Noo. In fact, I think I should try to find something else to think about, Yeeess! ::pulls out a hammer to be ready should I affirm or dis-affirm in excess again for the good of the rest of the world.... yee... OUCH!::

J.G.

Alas, Caitlin's idea of open heart surgery involves a Bowie knife and a shallow grave. So no, she's not yet capable of heart surgery.

I would have thought she'd have used the Bowie Knife to whittle a wooden spoon to use as an implement for open heart surgery. Heh, who'd a thunk she'd be so unimaginative as to just use the knife directly. Wink

Can't wait to read more of your stuff. ::begins to plan several machinations that would either ingeniously lead to J.G. releasing a pile of stories all at once should they succeed, or cause my keyboard to explode torching every last hair on my body should they fail:: Laughing


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Destiny's Wave [message #8613] Thu, 14 June 2007 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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J.G.


...

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Along those lines, should be interesting when she meets Jade, and realizes that she isn't really a gadgeteer. Wonder if she could even destroy Destiny's Wave if she really wanted to, after all, anything that can be made can be unmade.


When she meets Jade... You might be surprised, and as far as Destiny's Wave... Not tellin' MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
...



Thanks! Good to meet ya!

-JG[/quote]

I don't remember, were any of the previous artfiers Chinese? Could one of Catlin's predicessors have created Destiny's Wave? Then the sword master/priest that is the voice of the blade would recognize Catlin and possibly vica versa as I believe she recieved all their memories and knowleged as a parting gift from Catlin freeing their bound souls.

Wouldthe blade be happy to see her or angry, ie was she blaced in the blade voluntarily -- I think she was but am not cetain.

Need ... more story ... soon. Beging to ... talklikeShatner.

J G-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

John in Wauwatosa


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Could be worse, could be raining. (Young Frankenstein)

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Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #8620] Thu, 14 June 2007 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
J.G.  is currently offline J.G.
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I'm not tellin' I'm not tellin' NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH!

*Dances around John like an idiot*

Seriously though folks, those answers john just asked are actually very pertinent to upcoming stories, but due to me being me, I don't think sharing out that information would be very appropriate at this moment. It'd spoil too many surprises!

As far as the old Razorback story and Ashes of an Old Life, for now I ask you to forget it ever existed. I have to completely rewrite it, and the follow-up so that it fits in better with peoples' plans for the Whateley future. So consider it ripped. Once I get the rewritings done I'll post the old versions in fan fiction so you all can see the stories that weren't destined for Canon as written. After the new versions are posted of course. This may take a while.

-JG


Jericho: "Get your mind out of the gutter, you're blocking my periscope."

Eldritch: "Hey, I'm a classic case of what happens when you give a nerd a gun."
Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #8837] Thu, 28 June 2007 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee
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Minor issue that could conceivably have some relevance down the road:

How important is WHO does the tattoos on the Artificer? I mean, J.G. has made it clear that the ink has to have some "personal sacrifice" by the would-be Master, and that the needle gets "attuned" to a person (presumably also the would-be Master). Now, if Caitlin could:

1. Figure out what is to be her "personal sacrifice" so the ink is attuned to herself;
2. Use a needle attuned to herself;
3. Do the tattoos herself;

it seems likely that she would be her own Master. Now, she is working on (1), and (2) seems easy, but there are problems with (3) -- namely, how will she do her own back?

I mean, it COULD be that whoever is the actual tattoo artist is unimportant to the overall scheme of things. Or it could be that it has SOME influence (maybe the needle will get attuned to the artist over the long hours?).

She should at least investigate the matter with the Magic department before starting the tat job. However, this is not a pressing question at the moment, since unless she figures (1) out it's all academic.


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Caitlin, Razor, Diamond and Jericho [message #8840] Thu, 28 June 2007 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bladedancer  is currently offline Bladedancer
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As for the sword knowing Caitlin, who knows? It's not like they run in the same circles. Come on...it's obvious that Team Kimba is the much more popular group as opposed to those GSD corner freaks.

Wink


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my two coppers worth [message #8868] Sat, 30 June 2007 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Bladedancer

As for the sword knowing Caitlin, who knows? It's not like they run in the same circles. Come on...it's obvious that Team Kimba is the much more popular group as opposed to those GSD corner freaks.

Wink


that may be the case, but I, as a reader, enjoy *Almost* anything the Canon-Cabal write. "GSD Corner Freaks" as you put it (and the literary girls) seem to me a lot closer to "Normal", i.e. real life, people then the babes (and hank) of Kimba Korner if only in one basic regard:

they are not the "Beautiful people". as I wander around this great nation of mine (USA) in my capacity as an OTR truck driver, I see a lot of VERY good looking people who will have nothing to do with the likes of me simple because of my employment.

of course most truckers would fit the description of "GSD Minor to moderate" (including myself) but that's completely besides the point Wink

any character that "walks off the page" as a true to life person, that I do not have to suspend disbelief for, that seems as real as any person I have ever met (with a couple of exceptions, of course) is a character I enjoy reading. Jade, Catlin, Tenneyo (well, for the day to day stuff anyway), James, and many others are example of this.

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